Chuck, everyone,

Do not disable PEAP or EAP-TTLS on the eduroam SSID.
You can turn off PEAP or EAP-TTLS for your own users of course if you decide to 
support mainly EAP-TLS (on your RADIUS server), but do not do that for eduroam 
guests/visitors.

Thanks,

Philippe

Philippe Hanset
www.eduroam.us
www.anyroam.net



> On Jun 20, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Chuck Enfield <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> How would you disable PEAP on the eduroam SSID?  I've never noticed a
> setting for that.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Curtis K. Larsen
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 5:19 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam ssid
> 
> Yes it does work.  That's the problem - PEAP is vulnerable to Evil Twin
> attacks so we are disabling PEAP.  Doing that on eduroam would break all
> institutions that still offer it.  Leaving it enabled exposes users at our
> institution.
> 
> -Curtis
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: Johnson, Neil M [[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 2:52 PM
> To: Curtis K. Larsen
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam ssid
> 
> eduroam should work with just about any authentication method that uses
> EAP (PEAP,TLS,TTLS) etc.
> 
> So if your are say moving to TLS (Client certificates) it should still
> just work.
> 
> -Neil
> 
> --
> Neil Johnson
> Network Engineer
> The University of Iowa
> Phone: 319 384-0938
> Fax: 319 335-2951
> E-Mail: [email protected]
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Curtis K. Larsen
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> We're beginning to run into this problem as well.  Luckily, eduroam is 
>> not our primary SSID so at least the critical business functions 
>> continue to work fine on a separate SSID.  My guess is that we'll end up
> turning eduroam off at those remote locations if problems get reported.
>> 
>> In talking with the eduroam admin from the other institution they 
>> mentioned that when this occurs in Europe the solution has been to 
>> change the name of the SSID.  Is this really allowed?  If so, I'm 
>> sold!  Then we can start using our primary SSID with eduroam 
>> credentials!  This is what I always thought eduroam should have been.  
>> To me the value was always in the universal credential
>> *NOT* the SSID name.  That was always a drawback for me especially as 
>> supplicants become easier to configure.
>> 
>> The other problem that we're going to run into soon is that we will be 
>> phasing out PEAP on our main SSID to mitigate against the evil twin 
>> vulnerability, but what do we do with eduroam?  I mean I guess you 
>> could say it is the remote institution's problem, or the user's 
>> problem if they connect to an evil twin on your campus because they're 
>> not validating the server.  But if the evil twin is on your campus it
> seems you have at least some responsibility in the matter.  But as it
> stands, eduroam will leave a bit of a gaping security hole for us.
>> 
>> --
>> Curtis K. Larsen
>> Senior Network Engineer
>> University of Utah IT/CIS
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, June 17, 2016 7:35 am, Turner, Ryan H wrote:
>>> Yes.  We have a satellite school at UNC Asheville.  Up until 
>>> recently, UNC Asheville was not running eduroam, and UNC Chapel Hill
> was the only occupant of a couple of buildings on campus.
>>> UNC Asheville adopted eduroam and wanted to move into adjoining spaces.
> So we were going to have
>>> the situation where UNC Chapel Hill folks might attach to the wrong 
>>> institution's eduroam and vice versa.  We ended up bridging the two 
>>> networks together through a single link, and based on realm, UNC 
>>> Asheville will terminate UNC Chapel Hill folks directly to our 
>>> network (through trunked vlans).  It is nice, because now anywhere on 
>>> UNC Asheville campus, UNC Chapel Hill folks have UNC Chapel Hill IP
> space.  Because it made sense, we actually turned off our access points
> and allowed UNC Asheville to provide wireless in our areas (so we wouldn't
> have competing wireless).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ryan Turner
>>> Manager of Network Operations
>>> ITS Communication Technologies
>>> The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
>>> 
>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> +1 919 445 0113 Office
>>> +1 919 274 7926 Mobile
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Becker, 
>>> Jason
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 11:45 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam ssid
>>> 
>>> Has anyone ran into this situation.
>>> 
>>> We are an eduroam participating school and have multiple buildings 
>>> that are either across the road or sometimes sidewalk that another 
>>> University owns.  The other school is wanting to join eduroam so my 
>>> issue is when we are both broadcasting the same ssid in possibly the 
>>> same airspace.  I have a felling this is going to cause many problems
> as clients could bounce back and forth between systems.
>>> 
>>> If you had to deal with this I like to hear your thoughts on it.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jason Becker
>>> Network Systems Engineer
>>> Washington University in St. Louis
>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> 314-935-5006
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