I would also recommend using a rubber barrier non-slip matt under the mount, 
I’m assuming your ballast will be concrete blocks this will also be more 
forgiving to the roof surface too .


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Wireless Network Support Specialist
Quinnipiac University
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Date: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 9:34 AM
To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Non penetrating roof mounted WiFi antenna

Those sled mounts are great and the antenna you are looking at has very little 
wind resistance. I would suggest using fiber if able and take Sam’s points to 
heart as well. Proper sealing and grounding will keep your install working for 
years instead of months.

TJ McClintic


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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Non penetrating roof mounted WiFi antenna

And of course you'll want to make sure you can support the weight of the AP 
along with it. Those outdoor units can be hefty. That is unless you're using 
extension cables to hang the AP inside with the antenna outside. In which case, 
proper sealing of all of your connectors, lightning arresting, power 
protection, etc are all good 'non mount' gotchas you're going to want to 
consider.
  -Sam

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 7:06 PM, DAVID BEYERLE 
<deb...@psu.edu<mailto:deb...@psu.edu>> wrote:
Ken,

First calculate the wind pressure from the antenna using something like  
http://www.wikihow.com/Calculate-Wind-Load<https://websitecheck.quinnipiac.edu/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly91cmxkZWZlbnNlLnByb29mcG9pbnQuY29tL3YyL3VybD91PWh0dHAtM0FfX3d3dy53aWtpaG93LmNvbV9DYWxjdWxhdGUtMkRXaW5kLTJETG9hZCZkPUN3TUZhUSZjPTZ2Z05UaVJuOV9wcUNEOWhLeDlKZ1hOMVZhcEpROEpWb0Y4b1dIMUFnZlEmcj1yWWZxSF84b1R2Y1h4UnhVSTN4M20zWTdOd2dpcjd0bnVvR2JkWnNyVU00Jm09QmRqV3pvVlZYNVFzNWJjOUlpTDZPNGdCVXpCUzBLYm1yc1ppLWRiZDBhWSZzPVhCNnJMLWViZG1YQmVmY253VEFONDlxSk5KWk02eVIxUHBvT1RjcEE0YVUmZT0%3D&_r=cXVpbm5pcGlhYy1lZHU%3D&_s=ZGtyZXlub2xkcw%3D%3D>.
  A wind load of ~25 lb for that antenna should be very conservative.  Then sum 
the reactions (torques) at the base of the roof mount...the antenna imparts an 
overturning moment of ~250 ft-lb at the mast base, and so you ballast the mount 
to compensate for this.  The base of the frame is ~3' square, so the center of 
mass of cinder blocks which you'll use for ballast will be ~1.3' from the base 
of the mast, suggesting 180 lb of ballast should be enough.  Many installations 
use considerably less ballast and get away with it.  I happen to not like my 
masts to move (much).

The "gotcha" you should be aware of this that your roof must be able to support 
a ~200 lb load over an area of ~6 sq ft.  Of course, if it supports you, it 
likely will support the loading of this assemblage as well.

Best,
Dave

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From: "Mattson, III, Ken V" 
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Non penetrating roof mounted WiFi antenna

Has anyone roof mounted an AIR-ANT2588P3M-N antenna? Do you have pictures of 
the installation that you could share?  How high did you mount it? How much 
weight did you put on the base? We plan on putting it as high at 8-10 ft. on 
something like this:
http://www.cableandwireshop.com/non-penetrating-roof-mount-with-166-x-120-mast.html<https://websitecheck.quinnipiac.edu/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly91cmxkZWZlbnNlLnByb29mcG9pbnQuY29tL3YyL3VybD91PWh0dHAtM0FfX3d3dy5jYWJsZWFuZHdpcmVzaG9wLmNvbV9ub24tMkRwZW5ldHJhdGluZy0yRHJvb2YtMkRtb3VudC0yRHdpdGgtMkQxNjYtMkR4LTJEMTIwLTJEbWFzdC5odG1sJmQ9Q3dNRmFRJmM9NnZnTlRpUm45X3BxQ0Q5aEt4OUpnWE4xVmFwSlE4SlZvRjhvV0gxQWdmUSZyPXJZZnFIXzhvVHZjWHhSeFVJM3gzbTNZN053Z2lyN3RudW9HYmRac3JVTTQmbT1CZGpXem9WVlg1UXM1YmM5SWlMNk80Z0JVekJTMEtibXJzWmktZGJkMGFZJnM9a2hKOEFGNDhKaEl6aFRUMzNvZ3F6NDFDWkVyVm8xdl9XR0pVV1Y5Ujd6ayZlPQ%3D%3D&_r=cXVpbm5pcGlhYy1lZHU%3D&_s=ZGtyZXlub2xkcw%3D%3D>

Any gotchas we should be aware of?

Thanks for any assistance,

Kenneth V. Mattson III
Director - Network and Data
DoIT
Creighton University
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