We still have a few power injectors left in small places that have not been 
reworked with new switches and APs. We have always used PowerDsine rack-mount 
power injectors (6, 12, & 24 port models with various power output specs). They 
were quite useful from a management standpoint (they come with SNMP-based 
management software that can show power draw and can power off/on individual 
ports plus other stuff we rarely used). They also allowed to power the APs 
without having to purchase an entire switch or blade that did PoE. The 
PowerDsines were much cheaper than the difference in price between a non-PoE 
switch and a PoE switch. Also, with older locations AP density was much lower 
than what we now install. So we had some buildings with very few APs (e.g., 4 
or 9) and we could buy a large switch to take care of the wired ports and a 
small PoE injector for the APs. They were very reliable.

Now that VoIP phones are taking over our world, we only use PoE switches now 
and use them to also power our APs.

We are a Cisco shop. The PowerDsine units do not mask the CDP information 
passed to the switch from the APs.

BTW: MicroSemi bought out PowerDsine some years ago. See: 
http://www.microsemi.com/products/poe-systems/poe-systems 

Our monitoring of AP reboots is mainly done via SYSLOG analysis. Our real-time 
monitors only  poll every 5-10 minutes and are very likely to miss many AP 
reboots since they take about a minute to complete. But, we do notice APs down 
on the monitors all along. However, since we are logging all AP stuff to our 
SYSLOG servers we can easily scan them for reboots and create a table of what 
AP is doing what. In addition, since we run the HP/Aruba/Airwave AMP wireless 
management software, it can also report uptime for all APs. A quick scan of 
those with very short uptimes will also give you the list of ones that are 
constantly rebooting. However, the SYSLOGs are the only source we have that can 
give us the frequency of theses reboots.


John Watters
Network Engineer, Office of Information technology
The University of Alabama
A115 Gordon Palmer Hall
Box 870346 
Tuscaloosa, AL 35487 
Phone 205-348-3992
[email protected] 


-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd M. Hall
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 8:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Do you have POE everywhere?

Do you have POE in every location or are there some small locations that still 
use injectors?

If you have some injectors left, I have a few questions.

1.  How reliable are they?
2.  Are your injectors made by your wireless vendor?
3.  Do you have a way to monitor how often your APs reboot?

The reason I'm asking is that I just discovered that we have some APs that are 
rebooting frequently and they are all in locations that still have injectors.  
I expanded some home-grown code and started graphing AP uptime as well as 
lwapp/capwap uptime. (Found issues with lwapp/capwap uptime in a few locations 
as well)


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Todd M. Hall
Sr. Network Analyst
Information Technology Services
Mississippi State University
[email protected]
662-325-9311 (phone)

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