I can only preface it as 3rd hand info:

8540s on 8.2.160, some unidentified condition making the APs flap once a 
certain load of clients was reached. Beyond that, I can’t say much.
Lee Badman | Network Architect

Certified Wireless Network Expert (#200)
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> w 
its.syr.edu
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Watts
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 10:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Move In/Opening Week- Any Problems?

Lee,

Without identifying the school can you give any more detail about what sort of 
catastrophic issues they are having? What controllers/APs? We just moved to 
8.2.160.0 on 5520s and I haven’t noticed anything yet that I would deem 
catastrophic. We are on a mix of 2802i, 3502i, 1142n APs.

Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator

PRATT INSTITUTE
Academic Computing



On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Lee H Badman 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Not that I advocate it, but there are incredibly easy ways to shut down the 
wireless side of the printers if you chose to. That’s all I’m saying.

I have heard in private that another school is having catastrophic issues with 
8.2.160.0, so this may emerge as one to watch closer.
Thanks for sharing- this sort of information is valuable as we all go through 
this rather unique exercise.

-Lee

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of T. Shayne Ghere
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Move In/Opening Week- Any Problems?

Here’s our setup

Running 8.2.160.0 on a pair of 8540 in HA mode
796 1810w
472 3802i
Mix of 1142, 702 totaling 220 that will soon be replace with 3802i
Total AP’s will be close to 2015 when new wiring is pulled

Home grown registration for one SSID that’s used for devices that won’t work on 
secure or web-auth networks

I’m running Flexconnect on the wireless along with an Rlan for the wired ports 
for the 1810w’s (dorms) and local switching where applicable.

So far, we have identified 5 bugs with the 160.0 code which Cisco is working 
on.  They aren’t service impacting but more of a pain than anything. (Kernel 
panics and watchdog resets)

We have identified the Lenovo Yoga series laptops (and other models from Best 
Buy) having issues with enterprise networks with no solution since the last 
Windows 10 update.  If the users go an buy a small form factor wifi adapter, 
everything works.   Without it, they aren’t able to connect to our secure 
network and open networks are slow.

Dell laptops seem to be the most stable followed by Macbook Pro’s.

We have already surpassed most connected clients from last year on the second 
day of classes this year.  I’m seeing a LOT of wifi enabled TV’s, IoT devices 
(ugh), tablets, phones, smartwatches and wireless cameras/doorbells for rooms.

Our biggest concern is the amount of wireless printers that have shown up.  We 
don’t allow wireless printers on our network, but when trying to get the 
wireless cards shut off for each one is becoming a problem.

If anyone is handling wireless printers differently, I’d be interested in 
talking offline with you.

Thanks
----------------------------------
T. Shayne Ghere
Bradley University
Network Engineer/Wireless
1501 W. Bradley Ave, Jobst 224A
(309) 677-3094 (ofc)
(309) 863-5738 (cell) – Emergency only
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 8:22 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Move In/Opening Week- Any Problems?

It might be beneficial to share notes in case other schools are hitting common 
problems. I’m wondering how everyone who is in the thick of it is faring with 
back-to-school?

On this end, we are doing OK halfway to our expected total daily peak clients 
(we’re at 15K now high water mark).

Our significant WLAN-related changes since end of Spring semester
Running 8.2.151 on our 8540s
Significant quantities of Wave 2 APs
ISE as RADIUS (only, no NAC, no onboarding)

No changes to:
our guest WLAN (Clearpass/an Aruba controller pair)
onboarding (Cloudpath Wiz)
overall topology
open network in dorms for gadgets
non-use of AVC, it crapped out and never got solved after hundreds of hours 
with TAC

Fears:
We haven’t yet hit the scale that will reveal problems with any of the newer 
stuff listed above

Anyone else care to share?

-Lee


Lee Badman | Network Architect

Certified Wireless Network Expert (#200)
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> w 
its.syr.edu<http://its.syr.edu/>
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.edu<http://syr.edu/>



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