Thanks Sam, FCC compliance was not on my radar but is now.

On Oct 13, 2017, at 3:00 PM, Samuel Clements 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

DISCLAIMER - I'm not a lawyer, nor do I pretend to be. Any legal advice should 
be vetted by your own independent legal team.

> But did you stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night?


Don't forget to add regulatory compliance concerns to your list. It's a common 
misconception that you can take any off the shelf indoor AP, slap it in a NEMA 
enclosure, and put it outside. In Cisco land at least, you must make sure 
you're using APs that are validated for use outdoors in your regulatory domain 
- if that sort of thing is important to you. If you install an AP that is FCC 
validated only for use indoors, in an enclosure outdoors, you need to be aware 
of several things - not the least of which is how you (or your legal team) 
interprets the FCC position of 'Professional Installer'. In short, if 
regulatory domain validation is important to you, make sure you use APs that 
have been submitted to your domains regulatory body for validation. If it is 
not important to you, make sure you're diligent about what you can and cannot 
do outdoors in your regulatory domain and make sure you don't break the law.

Depending on your interpretation of the FCC rules in the states, for example - 
one could say that, even if you consider yourself a professional installer, if 
you leave a system in place that can exceed regulatory limits (even if someone 
else misconfigures it), you may be liable for those fines. Tread carefully here!
  -Sam

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Lee, Steven 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
We’re beginning to develop a campus wide strategy (vision) to provide outdoor 
WiFi coverage.  Up to this point, deployment has been a piecemeal process, 
where we install an outdoor AP here and there without much thought to broader 
implications or scale.  Aesthetics has not been much of a consideration either, 
but I think it should be moving forward.

We would like to develop a comprehensive strategy that aligns the campus master 
plan, and provides some continuity/standardization for future deployments with 
an eye to collaboration with our campus facilities teams.  Im thinking along 
the lines of developing a few ‘cookie cutter’ deployment scenarios and 
communicate the requirements/expectations of what infrastructure is needed to 
the campus planners/designers so they can incorporate (or atleast consider) 
them into their plans.

There is quite a bit to think about here, so in an effort to keep the scope in 
a hopefully reasonable place, I’d love to hear what others are doing regarding 
the infrastructure (not so much the networking and RF at this point) and 
overall campus strategy.


  *   Has anyone already developed a comprehensive campus wide strategy?
  *   Did you leverage buildout of cellular micro sites?
  *   What kinds of locations/areas do you find that your users get the most 
value/appreciation out of the service?
  *   Where do you physically install the AP’s and has that kind of deployment 
been successful?
     *   rooftops with directional antennas?
     *   exterior wall mounts?
     *   building canopies/overhangs?
     *   light poles?
  *   Ideas on aesthetics/concealment/physical access?  Ive heard of a use-case 
where the AP has been buried in flower beds also small antennas in light pole 
globes.  How else do you hide the gear?  Any good/bad experiences with custom 
enclosures and/or external antennas?
  *   Experiences (suggestions) with providing power for areas out of 802.3 
distance specs? Anyone use the hybrid fiber/copper products that are on the 
market?
  *   How do you plan pathway build-outs?   Do you leverage facilities and/or 
landscape construction to install conduit, etc?
  *   Any experience with putting hardened equipment (switches/aps) in 
underground enclosures?

I could go on and on with questions but I’m really looking for general 
advice/suggestions/creative ideas/war stories from others who have already gone 
down this road.

To be clear to the vendors on the list, this is NOT a funded initiative for a 
campus wide deployment.  We’re just trying to do some exploratory thinking, so 
please no sales calls.

Thanks everyone,

ste
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