Yeah, last time this came up I referenced the WHO's statement. However, there's a guy with a blog about the evils of wifi radiation....... so..........
-------------------- Andy Voelker Network Administrator Davidson College -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Curtis K. Larsen Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 1:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Performance improvements from hallway to in-room Here are some interesting links on this topic: World Health Organization: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.who.int%2Fpeh-emf%2Fpublications%2Ffacts%2Ffs304%2Fen%2F&data=02%7C01%7Canvoelker%40DAVIDSON.EDU%7Ceb35b0706e474787698108d732f27b04%7C35d8763cd2b14213b629f5df0af9e3c3%7C1%7C0%7C637033889348587780&sdata=3zg4dqKFz82lhrM44bAwkNzb9hBcbH%2FHhzjT71gqHQw%3D&reserved=0 Wi-Fi Alliance: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wi-fi.org%2Fwi-fi-and-health&data=02%7C01%7Canvoelker%40DAVIDSON.EDU%7Ceb35b0706e474787698108d732f27b04%7C35d8763cd2b14213b629f5df0af9e3c3%7C1%7C0%7C637033889348597775&sdata=NSFOzKodnzvzsYFbvbOhqJBUHZ%2FVoK5mIzZA0Ltgj7s%3D&reserved=0 Cisco 1815W Install Guide: "7.87 inches of separation" https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fc%2Fen%2Fus%2Ftd%2Fdocs%2Fwireless%2Faccess_point%2F1815%2Fquick%2Fguide%2Fap1815wgetstart.html&data=02%7C01%7Canvoelker%40DAVIDSON.EDU%7Ceb35b0706e474787698108d732f27b04%7C35d8763cd2b14213b629f5df0af9e3c3%7C1%7C0%7C637033889348597775&sdata=R%2F2ADP6lTQU8PUqrvKEaiJDJrrRxOG4dnzBpreefGoQ%3D&reserved=0 https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Fquora%2F2016%2F05%2F19%2Fa-radiation-oncologist-says-everything-you-need-to-hear-about-wifi-and-cancer-risk%2F%2353d25dde7267&data=02%7C01%7Canvoelker%40DAVIDSON.EDU%7Ceb35b0706e474787698108d732f27b04%7C35d8763cd2b14213b629f5df0af9e3c3%7C1%7C0%7C637033889348597775&sdata=4qS%2Fa2Qf8OinZDjPqqhC0U85h6ndCqxXOMmmdwI7RYY%3D&reserved=0 https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fnceh%2Fradiation%2Fnonionizing_radiation.html&data=02%7C01%7Canvoelker%40DAVIDSON.EDU%7Ceb35b0706e474787698108d732f27b04%7C35d8763cd2b14213b629f5df0af9e3c3%7C1%7C0%7C637033889348597775&sdata=jBPTcxPDufsfi73hfDjg0D54UrScvV1SzUEukSsKviQ%3D&reserved=0 ...On the other side of the argument ...you can find stuff like this: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theepochtimes.com%2Ftuning-in-to-microwave-sickness_2925499.html&data=02%7C01%7Canvoelker%40DAVIDSON.EDU%7Ceb35b0706e474787698108d732f27b04%7C35d8763cd2b14213b629f5df0af9e3c3%7C1%7C0%7C637033889348597775&sdata=61AVmgrpmN5M1a4rGzj%2FBt5QY7xCked85xmJOiikbOo%3D&reserved=0 Thanks, Curtis ________________________________________ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <[email protected]> on behalf of Turner, Ryan H <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 11:39 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Performance improvements from hallway to in-room Maybe this is the reason he is a 'former' colleague :) It reality I'm not a doctor or RF researcher. There have been plenty of instances in history where we thought something was safe to be proven wrong later. I try to take a softer approach. Ryan Turner Head of Networking, ITS The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill +1 919 274 7926 Mobile +1 919 445 0113 Office On Sep 6, 2019, at 1:32 PM, Jonathan Miller <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: One of my former colleagues told a story that he referred a scared/angry parent to one of these: <image.png> It was enough to make them happy :) Jonathan Miller Network Analyst Franklin and Marshall College On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 12:26 PM Hall, Rand <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Random data point: we replaced 375 dorm APs this summer and 3 had tape over the LED Rand Rand P. Hall Director, Network Services askIT! Merrimack College 978-837-3532 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> If I had an hour to save the world, I would spend 55 minutes defining the problem and five minutes finding solutions. - Einstein On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 5:53 PM Hunter Fuller <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Sometimes I wonder if we're the only campus that doesn't get that type of thing. We used to have a few "can you turn off this LED" before we just turned all of them off by default. -- Hunter Fuller Router Jockey VBH Annex B-5 +1 256 824 5331 Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama in Huntsville Network Engineering On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 3:26 PM Christopher Brizzell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Just be ready for some amount of backlash from an angry/ignorant parent. > Every year (including yesterday) we have parents contact us saying we needed > to remove all APs from bedrooms because of the health risk to the students > living in those spaces. > > > > Thank you for the information, however. Any amount of proof to help solidify > our decision helps. > > > > > > Chris Brizzell > > Assistant Director of Network and Technical Services and Network > Administrator > > Skidmore College > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > 518-580-5994 > > > > > > > > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected] > USE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Turner, Ryan H > Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 1:43 PM > To: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected] > SE.EDU> > Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Performance improvements from hallway to > in-room > > > > All: > > > > We all know that moving from hallway deployments to in-room deployments pays > dividends. This summer we started doing some re-cabling work on smaller > dorms to move from hallway to in-room. We also went away from Aruba higher > performance APs to the hospitality APs for these locations. Even though the > AP cost is significantly less, the cabling costs made this move a premium > option. Nonetheless, thanks to data provided to us from Nyansa Voyance, we > are able to clearly demonstrate to Housing that these funds were well spent. > After the changes, these dorms went from some of the worst performing > locations on campus to some of the best. When you look at the graphs below, > the Y axis is percentage of users that are affected by poor wifi performance > (I believe Nyansa measures this as clients that experience a 25% retransmit > rate from the AP to client). With Nyansa, it determines behavior on usage > level. So when you see the dashed line, it means that usage was below or > above the threshold during that time frame. 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