Hi Matt,

Thanks for sharing. The RJ-45 block-outs may also be a good investment for us.

Thanks

Sean

Sean Gray | B.Sc (Hons)
Voice, Collaboration & Wireless Network Analyst
ITS, University of Lethbridge

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We use standard flush-mount boxes, such that there is no protruding box to 
tamper with most of time; the device is flush with the wall.  If a protruding 
box must be installed, there really is no way to prevent people from making 
holes in it or ripping it off.


We utilize the locking screw with cover-up sticker that comes with the device.  
This helps… one has to go through the trouble of discovering the sticker and 
having a sufficient screwdriver to back the screw out, or straight up ripping 
it off the wall (which can be difficult)

For the RJ-45 ports, if we don’t want them to be used (such as the passthrough 
if not used), we use RJ-45 block-outs

Cisco offers Physical Security Kits we keep in stock that has additional screws 
and stickers plus the RJ-45 block-outs: AIR–SEC–50=

If we need bulk RJ-45 block-outs for a large project or something, we buy: 
https://www.amazon.com/Lindy-RJ45-Port-Blockers-40471/dp/B00F3VBOU6/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=XG25B9TBZNJX5B4YXE4Z



All of these above really help.




If we don’t want an ethernet cable removed we use port-lock kits, although this 
is rarely used: 
https://www.cdw.com/product/Panduit-outlet-port-lock-kit/1648217?cm_cat=google&cm_ite=1648217&cm_pla=NA-NA-Panduit_CN&cm_ven=acquirgy&ef_id=CjwKCAjwy7CKBhBMEiwA0Eb7au_NZdEqvxzyZ2RGMPSAOGiK-G4pC_EpSZvKNBgjXTxWKMAI1MOfZxoCfsoQAvD_BwE:G:s&gclid=CjwKCAjwy7CKBhBMEiwA0Eb7au_NZdEqvxzyZ2RGMPSAOGiK-G4pC_EpSZvKNBgjXTxWKMAI1MOfZxoCfsoQAvD_BwE&s_kwcid=AL!4223!3!496173788312!!!g!325109538940!!12244136370!117820874592




Our most common issue is people using the device to step up higher on the wall 
or smashing it with furniture.  I am unaware of any way to truly prevent this.  
We are a charge-back shop, so any replacement is bought by the building owner 
(sometimes they choose to simply not replace them and go without), so its not a 
big deal to us personally.



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Matt







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Hi Sean,

We have quite a number of the 1815W access points deployed throughout our 
campus housing as well.  We haven't noticed much issue with the LAN ports on 
the bottom getting damaged, but we have had occasional issues with students 
disconnecting them.  Ours are primarily mounted on surface mount j-boxes, so 
students will typically just remove a knockout hole and fish the cable out to 
disconnect, but we've had some get pried off as well, which, thankfully, has 
primarily just damaged the mounting plate.  We haven't done much to prevent it, 
but we do shut the switchport down to the room whenever an AP is disconnected, 
to provide an opportunity for educating the user.  Additionally, this year we 
had stickers printed to place on each AP with (very brief) instructions for 
connecting to our different wireless options, as well as to the wired ports on 
the bottom of the unit, and include our helpdesk website and phone number.  The 
idea being that having readily available instructions/help will reduce work for 
us as well as frustration for the students.  Don't really have any hard numbers 
as to how much it has helped, but our Residence Life staff were pretty 
enthusiastic about the idea.

All of that said, I know Oberon makes an enclosure that works with those APs 
(https://oberoninc.com/products/1017-wh/<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foberoninc.com%2Fproducts%2F1017-wh%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cmatcraig%40nmsu.edu%7C650989b12373408afd3508d97eb6511e%7Ca3ec87a89fb84158ba8ff11bace1ebaa%7C1%7C0%7C637680143776063162%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=nDw14UfDoUP0v1aV1LRKOdh%2FxHHUyn%2BTpppwqUXKbzk%3D&reserved=0>),
 which you could utilize if the problem is pervasive enough.  However, for us 
it's a low enough occurrence rate, and the 1815W units are inexpensive enough, 
that it would be far more costly to install the enclosures, in both time and 
money, than it is to deal with the occasional disconnected/damaged AP.

Cheers,

Eric

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On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 8:55 AM Gray, Sean 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I hope you are all surviving another semester start up without too much pain!

We have a large number of wall mounted Cisco 1815w access points on campus. 
Lately we have noticed that the LAN ports are getting damaged and are looking 
at way to stop people tampering with the patch cables.

I’m interested to see if anyone else has experienced this problem and am 
wondering what steps they took to protect their access points?

Thanks

Sean

Sean Gray | B.Sc (Hons)
Voice, Collaboration & Wireless Network Analyst
ITS, University of Lethbridge

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