The excelent list at http://www.freenetworks.org/moin/index.cgi/ReceiveSensitivity only lists the PCCARD Linksys product (as -76dBm @ 11MBps/BER 10E-5) - not the other offerings:
PCI - WMP11 USB - WUSB11 Router - BEFW11S4 Bridge - WAP11 Does anyone have receive sensitivity numbers for some of these products? I heard the WAP11 is pretty bad, but does that carry over in the (new) design of the BEFW11S4? Linksys only lists some indoor/outdoor ranges in their datasheets - but that kind of (soft) information is really difficult to relate to for a real engineer... TIA for any information. // Rolf > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 11:00 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: wireless digest, Vol 1 #756 - 19 msgs > > > Send wireless mailing list submissions to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wireless digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Converting to Ethernet (Jacek Pliszka) > 2. Re: Converting to Ethernet (homebrew) > 3. Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points (Ken Berger) > 4. Wireless Venture conference summary (Ken Berger) > 5. job: spectrum analyst needed (Ken Berger) > 6. Re: Converting to Ethernet (Jacek Pliszka) > 7. Re: Converting to Ethernet (Walter Bruce) > 8. AP4800 & amp funny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 9. (ot?) antenna diagrams (d p chang) > 10. Re: Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points (Glenn Fleishman) > 11. Job: Set up and maintain RADIUS server (Alan Gale) > 12. Re: Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points (Matt Peterson) > 13. Re: Job: Set up and maintain RADIUS server (Matt Peterson) > 14. Re: (ot?) antenna diagrams (Matt Peterson) > 15. Re: AP4800 & amp funny (Matt Peterson) > 16. Re: Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points (Jim Thompson) > 17. Re: Converting to Ethernet (Matt Peterson) > 18. Re: Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points (Matt Peterson) > 19. Re: Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points (Matt Peterson) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:01:19 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jacek Pliszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Jacek Pliszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: homebrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: Bill Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Converting to Ethernet > > > > Here is another solution: $189 > > There are converters, client APs, OpenAP APs and cheap PC > solutions in the $80-$120 range. All based on 802.11b. > None of them uses Windows (license cost is too high). > > But I won't give you any details as I did not like junk > at the beginning of your last e-mail. > > BR, > > Jacek > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: "homebrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Walter Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Converting to Ethernet > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:25:18 -0700 > > I bought a Orinoco USB and also a Engenius USB, > both used, for a cheap price on ebay. > > They work great as a USB to computer connection, but > I would like to get it to a ethernet connection. > > I want portable wireless ethernet so I can just plug it in at home > or move it to my office location. > > I would like to just plug it into my Hub directly at home via a > cat5 cable and then just unplug it and take it to wrk. and plug it > into the Hub at my wrk desk and just go. > > does anyone know of a way to convert wireless to ethernet cheap > or maybe I should just try and convert the USB to ethernet connection > then the whole package would be really small :) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Walter Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "homebrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 5:02 PM > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Converting to Ethernet > > > > Perhaps you can clarify what your are trying to do. What are > you trying to > > convert to Ethernet? > > > > wb > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "homebrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 3:12 PM > > Subject: [BAWUG] Converting to Ethernet > > > > > > I've seen all kinds of expensive gadgets that do this from > > antena (ether-ant) to small box converters. what I'm looking for is the > > cheapest > > solutions with out drawbacks to going cheap. I just want a ethernet > > connection > > and all I've see is USB client and well, these just don't plug into a > system > > with out complications. I just want ethernet... > > > > any ideas.... > > > > thx > > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 17:27:40 -0700 > From: Ken Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: bawug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [BAWUG] Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points > > It also happens to be at least slightly wrong coming out of the gate-- the > SF Starbucks locations are listed as HereUare locs. This is no > longer true. > It's gotta be tough to keep these kind of lists current. > > -Ken > > --- Pete Shipley wrote: > >just a buch of banner-ad infested copy-cats > > >Company Introduces Directory of Wireless > >LAN Public Access Points > > http://80211Hotspots.com from the INT Media Group > >contains a listing of 1400 public access points around > >the United States that is searchable by state or city. > > > >----------------- > >Results for San Jose: 39 locations > >Results for Cupertino: 3 locations > > > >Included in above > >San Jose: Le Boulanger - 7 > >San Jose: Starbucks - 17 > > > >Cupertino: Le Boulanger - 1 > >Cupertino: Starbucks - 2 > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 17:29:49 -0700 > From: Ken Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: bawug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [BAWUG] Wireless Venture conference summary > > BTW, for a laugh check out my guest appearance today on Glenn's blog: > http://80211b.weblogger.com/2002/05/03 > > -Ken > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 17:39:34 -0700 > From: Ken Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: bawug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [BAWUG] job: spectrum analyst needed > > On very short notice, someone has a req for someone with a > spectrum analyzer > (you should own and know how to use it well) and good knowledge of > in-building 802.11 deployment to come in and help assess a large > department > store-type AP network implementation. Feel free to contact me. > > -Ken > 415 982 4414 > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:47:05 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jacek Pliszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Jacek Pliszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: homebrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: Walter Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Converting to Ethernet > > On Fri, 3 May 2002, homebrew wrote: > > > I would like to just plug it into my Hub directly at home via a > > cat5 cable and then just unplug it and take it to wrk. and plug it > > into the Hub at my wrk desk and just go. > > I've seen ethernet-802.11b converters made by some other company, > not Avaya but I think SMC (I am not sure). They were around $120. > > Alternative is to have AP which can work as a client. > If your main AP is AT76C510 based (Linksys WAP11,D-link DWL-1000, > SMC 2655W,Addtron AWS-110 etc.) then put any other AT76C510 based in the > client mode. You should get one in $100-$120 range (Addtron even below). > Though I am not completely positive about Addtron as I have not tested > it myself. But it looks to be AT76C510 so should be OK. > > Another option is OpenAP (google for openap) compatible AP, this is also > $100-$120 range. > > If you did not want it portable then $25 486 desktop + $45 PCI USR > 802.11b card + Linux are the cheapest solution. > > Prices I mentioned are not average but ones you can get if you shop > around for some time. > > wireless 2 USB and USB 2 ethernet won't work as you need USB master. > > BR, > > Jacek > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Reply-To: "Walter Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From: "Walter Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "homebrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Converting to Ethernet > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:57:04 -0700 > > A Linksys WAP11 in AP Client mode would do what you want, but > that solution > is not a "cheap" one. But since 802.11b is essentially wireless Ethernet, > there apparently isn't much demand for a wireless NIC that plugs into a > wired NIC. > > wb > ----- Original Message ----- > > >I would like to just plug it into my Hub directly at home via a > > cat5 cable and then just unplug it and take it to wrk. and plug it > > into the Hub at my wrk desk and just go. > > > > does anyone know of a way to convert wireless to ethernet cheap > > or maybe I should just try and convert the USB to ethernet connection > > then the whole package would be really small :) > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 21:34:51 -0400 (EDT) > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [BAWUG] AP4800 & amp funny > > I have an Aironet AP4800 in diversity mode with one antenna port connected > to the usual included antenna and the other connected to a 1W AGC > amp. I've > noticed that if power is removed from the amp for more than a few minutes > and then restored, the AP4800 no longer sends beacons through the > associated > antenna port. The port isn't disabled totally since it will > transmit (it seems) > in response to some received packets. Anything on the AP4800 > that restarts > the radio restores normal operation. It can't be as simple as the AP4800 > giving up on the port after a while not seeing packets since this > would happen > anyway when there are no clients. It's also hard to believe that > the Hyperlink > amp when off presents such a different impedance as to cause the > radio to get > upset (or even that the radio is checking reflections). No > errors are logged. > Thoughts? > > Dan Lanciani > ddl@danlan.*com > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: d p chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 03 May 2002 21:06:21 -0700 > Subject: [BAWUG] (ot?) antenna diagrams > > possibly offtopic, but i was at a friend of mine's house and he was > showing me a ham magazine w/ an antenna review w/ a diagram talking > about the antenna performance. anyone out there have any pointers to a > beginers guide to reading these? > > \p > --- > The total absence of humor from the Bible is one of the most singular > things in all literature. --- Alfred North Whitehead. > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 21:28:21 -0700 > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points > From: Glenn Fleishman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Wireless BAWUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On 5/3/02 4:37 PM, "Fred Reinthaler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone know of a directory that has canadian public APs? > > The research I did back in November, and continue to do on an > ongoing basis, > indicates that the only remaining WISP in Canada offering more > than a point > here or there is Fatport in Vancouver, B.C. > > SkyLink Internet Plus, around since about 1996, disappeared from > view for at > least a few weeks and didn't return my calls or email. Their Web site also > stopped working for a while. However, I just checked and they're back, > although it seems to me with fewer locations: > <http://skylink.ca/locations.htm> > > I'd love to know if there are any other national or regional > WISPs in Canada > as well. You can imagine my frustration on a recent trip from Seattle via > Vancouver to the Whistler ski area: we met my fiancee's brother at the > Vancouver airport and although there is an extensive and superb > Nokia-built > Wi-Fi network, there's no public service at the moment. You can look, but > not touch. In Whistler, there are five Internet cafes, but no > Wi-Fi. I spoke > to a couple of people up there, one of whom owns one of the cafes, and he > plans to install service soon, and another Canadian group also told me of > their near-term plans. > > In fact, the next time I hit Whistler for next ski season, it could be > blanketed in snow and 2.4 GHz signals. > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Glenn Fleishman, Unsolicited Pundit: read my work at http://glennf.com > freelance reporter for The New York Times, Wired, O'Reilly Net, et al. > Macintosh columnist, The Seattle Times http://seattletimes.com/ptech/ > read all the wireless networking news at http://80211b.weblogger.com/ > daily Web log musing on technology and my life http://blog.glennf.com/ > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:08:10 -0700 (PDT) > From: Alan Gale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [BAWUG] Job: Set up and maintain RADIUS server > > A request has come up to develop a RADIUS based > authentication system. The project requires a bid on > hardware costs, set up costs and maintenance costs. > Please contact me directly, > > Al Gale > > ===== > Alan Gale > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > http://health.yahoo.com > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 01:16:30 -0700 > From: Matt Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Glenn Fleishman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points > > > > Does anyone know of a directory that has canadian public APs? > > As Glen mentioned, Fatport appears to be the latest commerical player in > Vancouver. You might also follow-up with <http://BCwireless.net/>. > > > Vancouver to the Whistler ski area: we met my fiancee's brother at the > > Glen, I'm surprised Fatport hasn't targeted this area. Do the cafes > have xDSL/cable modem upstream? Did you try asking the resort > management (maybe they're caught in a similar situation as airports)? > > -- > Matt Peterson Bay Area Wireless Users Group > Founder <http://www.bawug.org/> > -- > > --__--__-- > > Message: 13 > Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 01:21:43 -0700 > From: Matt Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Alan Gale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Job: Set up and maintain RADIUS server > > Alan, > > You should consider being (much more) verbose with your posting. > > For all we know, you could be requesting help configuring a PortMaster > for your dial-up ISP. Or maybe you're working on "reborn again" use of > RADIUS in a 802.1x AAA backend. > > This isn't /. or Craigslist ;) Thanks. > > -- > Matt Peterson Bay Area Wireless Users Group > Founder <http://www.bawug.org/> > -- > > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 11:08:10PM -0700, Alan Gale wrote: > > A request has come up to develop a RADIUS based > > authentication system. The project requires a bid on > > hardware costs, set up costs and maintenance costs. > > Please contact me directly, > > --__--__-- > > Message: 14 > Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 01:23:58 -0700 > From: Matt Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] (ot?) antenna diagrams > > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 09:06:21PM -0700, d p chang wrote: > > beginers guide to reading these? > > <http://www.telexwireless.com/wlanfaq.htm> > > -- > Matt Peterson Bay Area Wireless Users Group > Founder <http://www.bawug.org/> > -- > > --__--__-- > > Message: 15 > Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 01:26:13 -0700 > From: Matt Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] AP4800 & amp funny > > Funky, I do know the they'd revert to a repeater-only mode when the > Ethernet was disconnected. Weird, I recently had a Hyperlink amp go bad > myself, I wish YDI would match pricing (*hint*). > > -- > Matt Peterson Bay Area Wireless Users Group > Founder <http://www.bawug.org/> > -- > > --__--__-- > > Message: 16 > From: Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 03:33:14 -0500 > To: Matt Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Glenn Fleishman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points > > > Matt Peterson writes: > > > Glen, I'm surprised Fatport hasn't targeted this area. Do the cafes > > have xDSL/cable modem upstream? Did you try asking the resort > > management (maybe they're caught in a similar situation as airports)? > > Wait, what situation are the airports "caught in"? > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 17 > Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 01:37:54 -0700 > From: Matt Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: homebrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Converting to Ethernet > > Assuming you only want to bridge one MAC address, check out SmartBridges > airBridge <http://www.smartbridges.com/products/wireless/airbridge.php>. > > I saw a pre-production model in Thailand, it was a little hackish (PS/2 > or USB for power, cheap non-flexible RP-SMA antenna). However, it's the > only Gektek shipping solution @ 100mW ;) They're focus is not on the > client market ("why fight Linksys?"); I guess no one wants MiniPCI or > PCI 100mW Prism2.5 cards... ;-) > > Terry of NYCwireless and I will be visiting SmartBridges later this > month as part our WillPowerPointPresentToYourGroupForACouchToSleepOn > "vacation". I hope to convince them to certify additional antennas and > some other secret plots. > > btw, ElectroComm <http://www.ecommwireless.com/> just started listing > SmartBridges in their April PDF catalog (I'm not sure if they're > shipping). > > -- > Matt Peterson Bay Area Wireless Users Group > Founder <http://www.bawug.org/> > -- > > --__--__-- > > Message: 18 > Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 01:39:51 -0700 > From: Matt Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: bawug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points > > Indeed, all of the Boingo locations in the Bay Area are Surf and Sip > <http://www.surfandsip.com/>. I'm told they're going to update the > listing by Tuesday. Yet another attempt.. I guess WiFinder didn't > patent the idea? ;) > > -- > Matt Peterson Bay Area Wireless Users Group > Founder <http://www.bawug.org/> > -- > > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 05:27:40PM -0700, Ken Berger wrote: > > It also happens to be at least slightly wrong coming out of the > gate-- the > > SF Starbucks locations are listed as HereUare locs. This is no > longer true. > > It's gotta be tough to keep these kind of lists current. > > --__--__-- > > Message: 19 > Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 01:51:52 -0700 > From: Matt Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Glenn Fleishman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points > > You should know best Jim, coming from Wayport. > > Airports are run by port authorities, which exist to make money. Don't > tell me Wayport wheeled-n-dealed itself rights to wire(less) up an(y) > airport for free? They either want some insane amount of royalties, > profit sharing or monthly stipend. I blame the cellular industry; > landlords are now accustomed to $5000/mo 1/antenna deals. > > How do commercial 802.11 players convince building management that > they're not a telco carrier or HAM shack group with antennas; but > somewhere in between? > > -- > Matt Peterson Bay Area Wireless Users Group > Founder <http://www.bawug.org/> > -- > > On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 03:33:14AM -0500, Jim Thompson wrote: > > > > Wait, what situation are the airports "caught in"? > > > --__--__-- > > -- > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > End of wireless Digest > > -- general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
