"Rolf V. Ostergaard" wrote: Its SPAM !!!
-Ivan > The excelent list at > http://www.freenetworks.org/moin/index.cgi/ReceiveSensitivity only lists the > PCCARD Linksys product (as -76dBm @ 11MBps/BER 10E-5) - not the other > offerings: > > PCI - WMP11 > USB - WUSB11 > Router - BEFW11S4 > Bridge - WAP11 > > Does anyone have receive sensitivity numbers for some of these products? I > heard the WAP11 is pretty bad, but does that carry over in the (new) design > of the BEFW11S4? > > Linksys only lists some indoor/outdoor ranges in their datasheets - but that > kind of (soft) information is really difficult to relate to for a real > engineer... > > TIA for any information. > > // Rolf > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 11:00 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: wireless digest, Vol 1 #756 - 19 msgs > > > > > > Send wireless mailing list submissions to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of wireless digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Converting to Ethernet (Jacek Pliszka) > > 2. Re: Converting to Ethernet (homebrew) > > 3. Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points (Ken Berger) > > 4. Wireless Venture conference summary (Ken Berger) > > 5. job: spectrum analyst needed (Ken Berger) > > 6. Re: Converting to Ethernet (Jacek Pliszka) > > 7. Re: Converting to Ethernet (Walter Bruce) > > 8. AP4800 & amp funny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > 9. (ot?) antenna diagrams (d p chang) > > 10. Re: Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points (Glenn Fleishman) > > 11. Job: Set up and maintain RADIUS server (Alan Gale) > > 12. Re: Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points (Matt Peterson) > > 13. Re: Job: Set up and maintain RADIUS server (Matt Peterson) > > 14. Re: (ot?) antenna diagrams (Matt Peterson) > > 15. Re: AP4800 & amp funny (Matt Peterson) > > 16. Re: Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points (Jim Thompson) > > 17. Re: Converting to Ethernet (Matt Peterson) > > 18. Re: Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points (Matt Peterson) > > 19. Re: Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points (Matt Peterson) > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:01:19 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Jacek Pliszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: Jacek Pliszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: homebrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > cc: Bill Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Converting to Ethernet > > > > > > > Here is another solution: $189 > > > > There are converters, client APs, OpenAP APs and cheap PC > > solutions in the $80-$120 range. All based on 802.11b. > > None of them uses Windows (license cost is too high). > > > > But I won't give you any details as I did not like junk > > at the beginning of your last e-mail. > > > > BR, > > > > Jacek > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 2 > > From: "homebrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Walter Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Converting to Ethernet > > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:25:18 -0700 > > > > I bought a Orinoco USB and also a Engenius USB, > > both used, for a cheap price on ebay. > > > > They work great as a USB to computer connection, but > > I would like to get it to a ethernet connection. > > > > I want portable wireless ethernet so I can just plug it in at home > > or move it to my office location. > > > > I would like to just plug it into my Hub directly at home via a > > cat5 cable and then just unplug it and take it to wrk. and plug it > > into the Hub at my wrk desk and just go. > > > > does anyone know of a way to convert wireless to ethernet cheap > > or maybe I should just try and convert the USB to ethernet connection > > then the whole package would be really small :) > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Walter Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "homebrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 5:02 PM > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Converting to Ethernet > > > > > > > Perhaps you can clarify what your are trying to do. What are > > you trying to > > > convert to Ethernet? > > > > > > wb > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "homebrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 3:12 PM > > > Subject: [BAWUG] Converting to Ethernet > > > > > > > > > I've seen all kinds of expensive gadgets that do this from > > > antena (ether-ant) to small box converters. what I'm looking for is the > > > cheapest > > > solutions with out drawbacks to going cheap. I just want a ethernet > > > connection > > > and all I've see is USB client and well, these just don't plug into a > > system > > > with out complications. I just want ethernet... > > > > > > any ideas.... > > > > > > thx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 17:27:40 -0700 > > From: Ken Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: bawug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [BAWUG] Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points > > > > It also happens to be at least slightly wrong coming out of the gate-- the > > SF Starbucks locations are listed as HereUare locs. This is no > > longer true. > > It's gotta be tough to keep these kind of lists current. > > > > -Ken > > > > --- Pete Shipley wrote: > > >just a buch of banner-ad infested copy-cats > > > > >Company Introduces Directory of Wireless > > >LAN Public Access Points > > > http://80211Hotspots.com from the INT Media Group > > >contains a listing of 1400 public access points around > > >the United States that is searchable by state or city. > > > > > >----------------- > > >Results for San Jose: 39 locations > > >Results for Cupertino: 3 locations > > > > > >Included in above > > >San Jose: Le Boulanger - 7 > > >San Jose: Starbucks - 17 > > > > > >Cupertino: Le Boulanger - 1 > > >Cupertino: Starbucks - 2 > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 17:29:49 -0700 > > From: Ken Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: bawug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [BAWUG] Wireless Venture conference summary > > > > BTW, for a laugh check out my guest appearance today on Glenn's blog: > > http://80211b.weblogger.com/2002/05/03 > > > > -Ken > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 17:39:34 -0700 > > From: Ken Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: bawug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [BAWUG] job: spectrum analyst needed > > > > On very short notice, someone has a req for someone with a > > spectrum analyzer > > (you should own and know how to use it well) and good knowledge of > > in-building 802.11 deployment to come in and help assess a large > > department > > store-type AP network implementation. Feel free to contact me. > > > > -Ken > > 415 982 4414 > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 6 > > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:47:05 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Jacek Pliszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: Jacek Pliszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: homebrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > cc: Walter Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Converting to Ethernet > > > > On Fri, 3 May 2002, homebrew wrote: > > > > > I would like to just plug it into my Hub directly at home via a > > > cat5 cable and then just unplug it and take it to wrk. and plug it > > > into the Hub at my wrk desk and just go. > > > > I've seen ethernet-802.11b converters made by some other company, > > not Avaya but I think SMC (I am not sure). They were around $120. > > > > Alternative is to have AP which can work as a client. > > If your main AP is AT76C510 based (Linksys WAP11,D-link DWL-1000, > > SMC 2655W,Addtron AWS-110 etc.) then put any other AT76C510 based in the > > client mode. You should get one in $100-$120 range (Addtron even below). > > Though I am not completely positive about Addtron as I have not tested > > it myself. But it looks to be AT76C510 so should be OK. > > > > Another option is OpenAP (google for openap) compatible AP, this is also > > $100-$120 range. > > > > If you did not want it portable then $25 486 desktop + $45 PCI USR > > 802.11b card + Linux are the cheapest solution. > > > > Prices I mentioned are not average but ones you can get if you shop > > around for some time. > > > > wireless 2 USB and USB 2 ethernet won't work as you need USB master. > > > > BR, > > > > Jacek > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 7 > > Reply-To: "Walter Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > From: "Walter Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "homebrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Converting to Ethernet > > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:57:04 -0700 > > > > A Linksys WAP11 in AP Client mode would do what you want, but > > that solution > > is not a "cheap" one. But since 802.11b is essentially wireless Ethernet, > > there apparently isn't much demand for a wireless NIC that plugs into a > > wired NIC. > > > > wb > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > >I would like to just plug it into my Hub directly at home via a > > > cat5 cable and then just unplug it and take it to wrk. and plug it > > > into the Hub at my wrk desk and just go. > > > > > > does anyone know of a way to convert wireless to ethernet cheap > > > or maybe I should just try and convert the USB to ethernet connection > > > then the whole package would be really small :) > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 8 > > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 21:34:51 -0400 (EDT) > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [BAWUG] AP4800 & amp funny > > > > I have an Aironet AP4800 in diversity mode with one antenna port connected > > to the usual included antenna and the other connected to a 1W AGC > > amp. I've > > noticed that if power is removed from the amp for more than a few minutes > > and then restored, the AP4800 no longer sends beacons through the > > associated > > antenna port. The port isn't disabled totally since it will > > transmit (it seems) > > in response to some received packets. Anything on the AP4800 > > that restarts > > the radio restores normal operation. It can't be as simple as the AP4800 > > giving up on the port after a while not seeing packets since this > > would happen > > anyway when there are no clients. It's also hard to believe that > > the Hyperlink > > amp when off presents such a different impedance as to cause the > > radio to get > > upset (or even that the radio is checking reflections). No > > errors are logged. > > Thoughts? > > > > Dan Lanciani > > ddl@danlan.*com > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 9 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > From: d p chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 03 May 2002 21:06:21 -0700 > > Subject: [BAWUG] (ot?) antenna diagrams > > > > possibly offtopic, but i was at a friend of mine's house and he was > > showing me a ham magazine w/ an antenna review w/ a diagram talking > > about the antenna performance. anyone out there have any pointers to a > > beginers guide to reading these? > > > > \p > > --- > > The total absence of humor from the Bible is one of the most singular > > things in all literature. --- Alfred North Whitehead. > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 10 > > Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 21:28:21 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points > > From: Glenn Fleishman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Wireless BAWUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > On 5/3/02 4:37 PM, "Fred Reinthaler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Does anyone know of a directory that has canadian public APs? > > > > The research I did back in November, and continue to do on an > > ongoing basis, > > indicates that the only remaining WISP in Canada offering more > > than a point > > here or there is Fatport in Vancouver, B.C. > > > > SkyLink Internet Plus, around since about 1996, disappeared from > > view for at > > least a few weeks and didn't return my calls or email. Their Web site also > > stopped working for a while. However, I just checked and they're back, > > although it seems to me with fewer locations: > > <http://skylink.ca/locations.htm> > > > > I'd love to know if there are any other national or regional > > WISPs in Canada > > as well. You can imagine my frustration on a recent trip from Seattle via > > Vancouver to the Whistler ski area: we met my fiancee's brother at the > > Vancouver airport and although there is an extensive and superb > > Nokia-built > > Wi-Fi network, there's no public service at the moment. You can look, but > > not touch. In Whistler, there are five Internet cafes, but no > > Wi-Fi. I spoke > > to a couple of people up there, one of whom owns one of the cafes, and he > > plans to install service soon, and another Canadian group also told me of > > their near-term plans. > > > > In fact, the next time I hit Whistler for next ski season, it could be > > blanketed in snow and 2.4 GHz signals. > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Glenn Fleishman, Unsolicited Pundit: read my work at http://glennf.com > > freelance reporter for The New York Times, Wired, O'Reilly Net, et al. > > Macintosh columnist, The Seattle Times http://seattletimes.com/ptech/ > > read all the wireless networking news at http://80211b.weblogger.com/ > > daily Web log musing on technology and my life http://blog.glennf.com/ > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 11 > > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:08:10 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Alan Gale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [BAWUG] Job: Set up and maintain RADIUS server > > > > A request has come up to develop a RADIUS based > > authentication system. The project requires a bid on > > hardware costs, set up costs and maintenance costs. > > Please contact me directly, > > > > Al Gale > > > > ===== > > Alan Gale > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > > http://health.yahoo.com > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 12 > > Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 01:16:30 -0700 > > From: Matt Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Glenn Fleishman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points > > > > > > Does anyone know of a directory that has canadian public APs? > > > > As Glen mentioned, Fatport appears to be the latest commerical player in > > Vancouver. You might also follow-up with <http://BCwireless.net/>. > > > > > Vancouver to the Whistler ski area: we met my fiancee's brother at the > > > > Glen, I'm surprised Fatport hasn't targeted this area. Do the cafes > > have xDSL/cable modem upstream? Did you try asking the resort > > management (maybe they're caught in a similar situation as airports)? > > > > -- > > Matt Peterson Bay Area Wireless Users Group > > Founder <http://www.bawug.org/> > > -- > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 13 > > Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 01:21:43 -0700 > > From: Matt Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Alan Gale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Job: Set up and maintain RADIUS server > > > > Alan, > > > > You should consider being (much more) verbose with your posting. > > > > For all we know, you could be requesting help configuring a PortMaster > > for your dial-up ISP. Or maybe you're working on "reborn again" use of > > RADIUS in a 802.1x AAA backend. > > > > This isn't /. or Craigslist ;) Thanks. > > > > -- > > Matt Peterson Bay Area Wireless Users Group > > Founder <http://www.bawug.org/> > > -- > > > > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 11:08:10PM -0700, Alan Gale wrote: > > > A request has come up to develop a RADIUS based > > > authentication system. The project requires a bid on > > > hardware costs, set up costs and maintenance costs. > > > Please contact me directly, > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 14 > > Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 01:23:58 -0700 > > From: Matt Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] (ot?) antenna diagrams > > > > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 09:06:21PM -0700, d p chang wrote: > > > beginers guide to reading these? > > > > <http://www.telexwireless.com/wlanfaq.htm> > > > > -- > > Matt Peterson Bay Area Wireless Users Group > > Founder <http://www.bawug.org/> > > -- > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 15 > > Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 01:26:13 -0700 > > From: Matt Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] AP4800 & amp funny > > > > Funky, I do know the they'd revert to a repeater-only mode when the > > Ethernet was disconnected. Weird, I recently had a Hyperlink amp go bad > > myself, I wish YDI would match pricing (*hint*). > > > > -- > > Matt Peterson Bay Area Wireless Users Group > > Founder <http://www.bawug.org/> > > -- > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 16 > > From: Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 03:33:14 -0500 > > To: Matt Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: Glenn Fleishman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points > > > > > > Matt Peterson writes: > > > > > Glen, I'm surprised Fatport hasn't targeted this area. Do the cafes > > > have xDSL/cable modem upstream? Did you try asking the resort > > > management (maybe they're caught in a similar situation as airports)? > > > > Wait, what situation are the airports "caught in"? > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 17 > > Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 01:37:54 -0700 > > From: Matt Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: homebrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Converting to Ethernet > > > > Assuming you only want to bridge one MAC address, check out SmartBridges > > airBridge <http://www.smartbridges.com/products/wireless/airbridge.php>. > > > > I saw a pre-production model in Thailand, it was a little hackish (PS/2 > > or USB for power, cheap non-flexible RP-SMA antenna). However, it's the > > only Gektek shipping solution @ 100mW ;) They're focus is not on the > > client market ("why fight Linksys?"); I guess no one wants MiniPCI or > > PCI 100mW Prism2.5 cards... ;-) > > > > Terry of NYCwireless and I will be visiting SmartBridges later this > > month as part our WillPowerPointPresentToYourGroupForACouchToSleepOn > > "vacation". I hope to convince them to certify additional antennas and > > some other secret plots. > > > > btw, ElectroComm <http://www.ecommwireless.com/> just started listing > > SmartBridges in their April PDF catalog (I'm not sure if they're > > shipping). > > > > -- > > Matt Peterson Bay Area Wireless Users Group > > Founder <http://www.bawug.org/> > > -- > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 18 > > Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 01:39:51 -0700 > > From: Matt Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: bawug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points > > > > Indeed, all of the Boingo locations in the Bay Area are Surf and Sip > > <http://www.surfandsip.com/>. I'm told they're going to update the > > listing by Tuesday. Yet another attempt.. I guess WiFinder didn't > > patent the idea? ;) > > > > -- > > Matt Peterson Bay Area Wireless Users Group > > Founder <http://www.bawug.org/> > > -- > > > > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 05:27:40PM -0700, Ken Berger wrote: > > > It also happens to be at least slightly wrong coming out of the > > gate-- the > > > SF Starbucks locations are listed as HereUare locs. This is no > > longer true. > > > It's gotta be tough to keep these kind of lists current. > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 19 > > Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 01:51:52 -0700 > > From: Matt Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: Glenn Fleishman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Directory of 802.11b Public Access Points > > > > You should know best Jim, coming from Wayport. > > > > Airports are run by port authorities, which exist to make money. Don't > > tell me Wayport wheeled-n-dealed itself rights to wire(less) up an(y) > > airport for free? They either want some insane amount of royalties, > > profit sharing or monthly stipend. I blame the cellular industry; > > landlords are now accustomed to $5000/mo 1/antenna deals. > > > > How do commercial 802.11 players convince building management that > > they're not a telco carrier or HAM shack group with antennas; but > > somewhere in between? > > > > -- > > Matt Peterson Bay Area Wireless Users Group > > Founder <http://www.bawug.org/> > > -- > > > > On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 03:33:14AM -0500, Jim Thompson wrote: > > > > > > Wait, what situation are the airports "caught in"? > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > -- > > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > End of wireless Digest > > > > > > -- > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
