I'd have to disagree there - All you need to do is sit in range for < an hour during business hours -- which doesn't even count being lucky and getting a probe response in the 5 second driveby (which happens fairly often.)
SSID cloaking and beacon hiding isn't necessarily a bad thing, but too many places use it as the only protection because it leads to a false sense of security. Just my $0.02 anyhow. -m On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 01:20:38PM -0500, Tom Woody wrote: > But you have to admin that Obscurity = greater security, used in the correct context >- it would protect you from the drive by crackers and script kiddies. Crackers, >Hackers, script kiddies - what ever you want to call them are by definition lazy. So >if its hard to get any info, they will move on, especially with the number of gaping >open places there are now! But yes, as with any security scheme if a cracker is >determined to get in - he will get in. > > On Thu, 16 May 2002 13:52:36 -0400 > Mike Kershaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Though all is strange ... > > > It is possible to construct the WLAN_802.11b so, that for example, > > > same kismet nothing will see and will not hear... > > > It is especially convenient to do it on ATMEL based AP. > > > > How do you mean? > > > > Even cloaking the SSID and turning off beaconing won't make it hidden from > > a passive sniffer, and if a client associates the passive sniffer can still > > see the SSID in the probe req and response. You're not going to be able to > > hide that and still be within (my understanding of) the 802.11 spec. > > > > Obscurity != security. Too many companies blindly trust that no beaconing > > or hiding their SSID means they're automatically safe. > > > > -m > > > > -- > > Censorship, like charity, should begin at home, but > > unlike charity, it should end there. -- Clare Boothe Luce > > > > -- > > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > -- > Tom Woody > Systems Administrator > NationWide Flood Research, Inc. > phone: 214-631-0400 x209 > fax: 214-631-0800 > > If you have any trouble sounding condescending, > find a Unix user to show you how it's done. > --Scott Adams > > -- > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Some people call them "cars" or "trucks"; I call them "dimensional transmogrifiers" because they change three-dimensional cats into two-dimensional ones. -- F. Frederick Skitty -- general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
