Of course, a few people streaming DOWN can also hose the loop, or pirate
files from folks who do have good upstream rates -- and since when is it the
ISP's responsibility to police content -- oh, yes, when you are T-W and you
have the vested interest of the content provider, I guess.  Shouldn't the
cable Internet provider have the neutral status of "common carrier", same as
the Telco's?

I also have heard that saturation of the upstream link can hose up the
entire loop, including the downstream capacity, with a rather sharp cut-off.
If so, putting too tight a leash on upstream can have a detrimental effect
on everyone -- so how many nodes do they put on a loop -- 600 or so?  So
what will you do with your 0.2 Kb of bandwidth, and how much of it is
already used-up with broadcast packets et al?  Considering that they
allocate only ONE TV-channel's worth of bandwidth to the entire Internet
service, when there are what, at least 256 channels on the wire, seems like
they could loosen-up a bit.

Note that most garden-variety DSL accounts of which I am aware give at least
256 Kb up, which is not even shared at the node level -- and substantially
higher rates are somewhat affordable.

I was sucked-in by T's "6 months at $20 per" deal, so just about when that
was up, they announced a 15% price increase in the base rates and reduced
the rental credit for people having their own modems from $5 per to $3 per.
What can we expect when they merge with Comcast!!

Ken M.


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Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [BAWUG] AT&T/TimeWarner Broadband

Thanks everyone, I guess I'm just pissed beacuse my friends in Boston have
better net connection then me :)

+---------- Thus spoke Thom Stark on Wed, Jun 19, 2002

>Azeem Jiva asked:

>> Can anyone explain to me why they would cap upstream at 128k?  I'm trying
>> to think of a logical reason for this, and I come up short.  Anyone have
>> any insights?

>To inhibit piracy of video, audio and software files, to prevent bandwidth
>hogs such as streaming media (i.e. -- Webcam) providers from paying for a
>home connection, then using it to run a business and, in general, to keep a
>handful of subscribers from reducing the bandwidth available to an entire
>cable segment.

>Oh, wait..that's three reasons..
>
>..sorry. I never do know when to stop..
>
>Regards,
>
>Thom Stark
>
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