On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 02:47:24PM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote:
>  > Right.  They will have to subsidize the hardware as well as the
>  > bandwidth.
> 
> Why?  People manage to purchase a car.  Those who want one manage to
> purchase a computer.  Why would someone not be able to afford $800 for 
> CPE?  It's cheaper than a lawn tractor.

Indeed; and as someone has pointed out, it's closer to $500.

*I* could sell that.

And indeed, I might well try.

>  > > Where did you see hints of mesh architecture?  The "User Manual" and 
>  > > "Online Demo" links don't work for me.  I filled out an info request 
>  > > last week and have received nothing so far.
>  > 
>  > Not sure where Russell did.  I don't belive they use one.
> 
> I didn't see any mention of backhaul from the access points
> themselves.  Okay, so if the access points don't need a backhaul, they
> gotta retransmit from other access points, right?

It's a nested star arrangement from what I can see: you home the users
on a "ecll site"; 1 or more reecivers on mid-band for the customers;
then a backhaul radio on hi-band (do I have the segments right?) up to
20 miles with 2 dishes to your hub.  Multiple hubs could probably
combine to other backhaul radios to your NOC.  I presume you'd want to
avoid wires entirely if you could.  Location leases are more stable
than telco's these days.  ;-)

>  > > Will 5.2-7 Ghz punch through neighborhood trees better than 2.4 Ghz?
>  > 
>  > Nope.  Freespace loss is also 7 dB greater but the modulation scheme
>  > will be better than DSSS or OFDM to interference.  It may not works
>  > as well with multipath as OFDM.
> 
> Yup (in the sense that Tim is correct).  That's why you really really
> gotta have a mesh architecture.  In my town, from an arbitrary house
> you can see maybe the two or three neighbor's houses across the
> street.  Going up doesn't help you because the trees are taller than
> the houses.

And to clarify here, what everyone means by "mesh" is "digipeaters",
right?

> For wireless to work in my community, you need to have what amount to
> lots of repeaters just to get the signal to a wired point.

Guess so.  :-)

Cheers,
-- jra
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