On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Gene wrote:

> I guess it depends on the voltage too.

yeah at .0302 ohm per foot 24awg 3ohms per hundred feet... you're talking 
about a ~5volt drop so you put in 12 and get 7...
 
> But if I remember my KCL/KVL and Ohm's Laws, what if you use the 4 
> unused lines in a standard PoE as the positive voltage rail and the 
> shielding (assuming this is a shielded cat5) as the ground) to help 
> reduce equivalent line resistance?
> Aka "four heads...err...lines are better than one" idea.
> 
> 
> G.
> 
> Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> > we do 100 meters on the cisco 48volt poe gear...
> > 
> > joelja
> > 
> > On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Jon from Nova Wireless wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>PoE and wet11's are good friends...
> >>anyone got what they feel would be a distance record on their PoE rig?
> >>about 40' is my pathetic record w/ a wap11 2.2.
> >>I've gone 55' w/ no problem on a wet11 and the wap11 1.1's draw less power
> >>than the 2.2's as well.
> >>anyone else got experience on homebrew PoE stuff we haven't (or have) seen
> >>before?
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Gene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:20 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [BAWUG] connecting 2 linksys WAP11 - which antenna
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>WHAT!?  BUYING a pre-made PoE!?  That's....that's....so un-DIY. :p
> >>>Besides, if you were to make your own (say with a 12-15V or a 6-12V
> >>>source, you can always implement your own gel-cell (lead-acid) battery
> >>>UPS backup.
> >>>
> >>>G.
> >>>
> >>>Michael Skowvron wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Jon from Nova Wireless wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>dwl900AP+'s work well as AP's, but I've had real trouble with them as
> >>>>>clients.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>That's interesting and not surprising. I've tried various APs (SMC,
> >>>>DLink, Netgear, Linksys) in "client" mode and couldn't get any of them
> >>>>to work reliably.
> >>>>
> >>>>I was assuming that when bamg7777 said that he wanted to connect 2
> >>>>houses, that he was going to use point-to-point bridging mode, not
> >>>>AP/Client mode. Point-to-point bridging mode, in my experience, is
> >>>>vastly more stable and reliable than AP/Client mode.
> >>>>
> >>>>If AP/Client mode is required and you have to minimize your expense or
> >>>>channel usage, I would consider the Linksys WET11 as the client instead
> >>>>of the WAP11.
> >>>>
> >>>>On the topic of power of ethernet for these devices, the D-Link PoE
> >>>>product works well for the Linksys gear, too.
> >>>>
> >>>>Michael
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>the best "po' mans wifi" I've seen across any distance consisted of
> >>>>>DWL900AP+ as AP and wap11 2.2 or 2.6 as clientAP's connecting clients
> >>
> >>or
> >>
> >>>>>redistributing through additional front side AP's.
> >>>>>Low latency even on slightly marginal links.
> >>>>>good reassociation after fade/head-end reboot functionality (really
> >>>>>important to start off wisp).
> >>>>>in all honesty the wap11 1.1's with 1_4j_1 firmware connected to
> >>>>>DWL900AP+
> >>>>>headend works amazing.
> >>>>>I have required really low "customer intervention" since I
> >>>>>standardized my
> >>>>>environment to the above components only.
> >>>>>I know it sounds strange, but my orinoco silver card caused more
> >>>>>trouble to
> >>>>>my linksys environment than you would believe.  I would monitor my
> >>>>>network
> >>>>>all day from work and no trouble.  it was only when I would get home at
> >>>>>night that things would flake out and get weird.  I doubt this is a
> >>
> >>flaw
> >>
> >>>>>with orinoco or linksys really, more of an interoperation thing that
> >>>>>noone
> >>>>>really bothers to repair.  either way: once I got rid of that card all
> >>>>>things converged and things are working great.  at least until the
> >>
> >>leaves
> >>
> >>>>>come back on the trees. :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>anbody know a source for cheap wap11 ver1.1's?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>From: "Michael Skowvron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>To: "bamg7777" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:37 AM
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [BAWUG] connecting 2 linksys WAP11 - which antenna
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>A lot of people seem to recommend grids and yagis, but I really like
> >>
> >>the
> >>
> >>>>>>performance that I've been getting with panel antennas.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>http://www.winningimages.com/cat-net/wireless.html#panel
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>If the path is line-of-sight with no obstructions, you should be able
> >>
> >>to
> >>
> >>>>>>have a solid link even with the small 5" panel. The 13 would give you
> >>
> >>a
> >>
> >>>>>>lot more fade margin, but it's probably not necessary.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Do you already have the WAP's? I have to agree with everyone else
> >>>>>>because I've got experience with them. Try to avoid them. Currently,
> >>
> >>the
> >>
> >>>>>>D-Link 900AP+ seems to have very stable firmware and I would recommend
> >>>>>>them if you want to build something that doesn't flake out on you.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Michael
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>bamg7777 wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I am attempting to connect 2 houses that are about 2000 feet apart.
> >>>>>>>Maybe 2500.  I am going to put a WAP11 at each site. It is the
> >>
> >>802.11b
> >>
> >>>>>>>version.
> >>>>>>>Which antenna would you suggest?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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