I am willfully purchasing a box from Frys which I will use to connect my Laptop to the internet. That is the extent of my willfulness. I will take it out of the box and plug it in then I will install the Pcmcia card and install the software. If It works great if it doesnt Ill take it back.
if you drive by my house and use my bandwidth or deny my ability to use my service or look at copy or corrupt my data it is not me who has broken any law. That is the scenario one will encounter in about 75% of installed consumer class WAP's -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 5:53 PM To: 'MAILING LIST Bawug WIRELESS' Subject: RE: [BAWUG] FW: Netstumbling - FBI response The FBI was only addressing potential Federal criminal liability. They did not address civil or state criminal liability. Your public comments on the other-hand are basically establishing that you know what the standard of care is and are willfully choosing not to follow it. How that impacts your liability is still undecided case law. -- Eric Chamberlain, CISSP Campus Active Directory Architect Central Computing Services University of California, Berkeley http://calnetad.berkeley.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Enrique LaRoche > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 8:19 AM > To: Sandro Gauci; MAILING LIST Bawug WIRELESS > Subject: RE: [BAWUG] FW: Netstumbling - FBI response > > This defines what responsibilities I have as an AP owner and it also > defines > who is wrong when there is an unauthorized use. > > It is not my responsibility to secure my AP it is a crime for you to use > my > service without permission or hack my server even if I have a completely > open site. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sandro Gauci > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 7:59 AM > To: MAILING LIST Bawug WIRELESS > Subject: [BAWUG] FW: Netstumbling - FBI response > > > FYI > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Greg Reber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 1:33 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Netstumbling - FBI response > > > > > > Folks - it took a while but here's the answer from the FBI on > > the legal view > > of wireless scanning: > > > > As for your question regarding netstumbling, it's not illegal > > to scan, but > > once a theft of service, denial of service, or theft of > > information occurs, > > then it becomes a federal violation through 18USC 1030. The > > FBI does not > > have a website with this type of information. You either > > need to pose the > > question to us or a cyber crime attorney (or our US > > attorney's office). > > > > No real surprises here, but solidifies the boundaries. This came from > > Special Agent Mary Kimura, of the San Francisco FBI office > > and Infragard > > coordinator. > > > > -greg > > > > The information in this email is likely confidential and may > > be legally > > privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access > > to this email by > > anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended > > recipient, any > > disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or > > omitted to be taken > > in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------- > > Did you know that you have VNC running on your network? > > Your hacker does. Plug your security holes now! > > Download a free 15-day trial of VAM: > > http://www2.stillsecure.com/download/sf_vuln_list.html > > > > > > This mail was content checked for malicious code and viruses > by GFI MailSecurity. GFI MailSecurity provides email content > checking, exploit detection and anti-virus for Exchange & > SMTP servers. Spam, viruses, dangerous attachments and > offensive content are removed automatically. Key features > include: Multiple virus engines; Email content & attachment > checking; Exploit shield - email intrusion detection & defence; > Email threats engine - analyses & defuses HTML scripts, > .exe files & more. > > > > In addition to GFI MailSecurity, GFI also produces the GFI > FAXmaker fax server & GFI LANguard network security product > ranges. For more information on our products, please visit > http://www.gfi.com. This disclaimer was sent by GFI MailEssentials > for Exchange/SMTP. > > > -- > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
