Also many of the newer windows have energy saving glazes/coatings that cause more problems than leaded glass
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gba Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:54 PM To: Stefan Schueller Cc: Peter Bellew; Brian Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Wap11 range problem (LOS obstructions & fresnel zone) on the window tip: do you live in an older house stefan? i believe what would cause this loss is that there is lead in the glass used in older homes' window panes. you can typicaly tell by the yellowing of the glass. but, it could be something completely different. -xs -- Greg Borie al'Brecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> AM Breaks * www.ambreaks.com West-Coast BreakBeat Movement -- "Buy the ticket, take the ride." -Dr. H.S.T Quoting Stefan Schueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Also make sure you don't try doing this through the window as certain > types of windows block the signal. > > I noticed that placing the antenna right at my windows causes all the > signal to get lost. Moving back a couple of feet it gets better. > > -Stefan > http://www.hartwellroad.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Bellew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Brian Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 08:36 > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Wap11 range problem (LOS obstructions & fresnel zone) > > > > The ROR units are a great choice as they have the Karlnet software > > which > is > > diff to hack and is far more robust than any regular solution like > > the SmartBridges 802.11b stuff. The ROR units work at 2.4ghz but > > are not 802.11b compliant. > > > > > > Best regards > > > > Peter Bellew, CEO > > Visitor Based Networks > > Kerry Technology Park, Tralee. > > Co. Kerry. Ireland > > Tel: +353-66-7190089 > > http://www.vbnets.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brian Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:53 PM > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Wap11 range problem (LOS obstructions & fresnel > > zone) > > > > > > > This is just my personal experience, and pretty limited experience > > > at > > that. > > > > > > I have attempted 2 wireless bridge connections with 2 sets of > > > WAP11's, > > one > > > link was 10 miles and the other was 3 blocks. Neither link worked > > > at > all > > > with the 2.6 WAP11's. In my personal opinion they are garbage. > > > Both > > links > > > "worked" with the 2.2's. but they were slow, as in about 20KB/s > > > slow. > > > > > > I did get both links to work. On the 10 mile link I used a > > > SmartBridges AirPoint PRO Outdoor and an AirBridge Outdoor. The > > > combo works > perfectly > > at > > > a cost of about $650 for equipment. The speed is also excellent > > > and > > varies > > > between 450-550KB/s. The only problem is the SmartBridge > > > equipment > > appears > > > to be in very high demand because it is hard to find anyone with > > > them in stock. > > > > > > The 3 block link I used Hyperlink Technologies H-ROR's and they > > > also > work > > > very very well and support a ton of excellent routing options. > > > The > speed > > > wasn't as good as the SmartBridge stuff, but it was still decent > > (350KB/s). > > > Hyperlink has these in stock pretty much all the time, but they > > > run > about > > > $900 for the pair. > > > > > > Again, this is just my personal experience. I have seen the > > > stories > with > > > WAP11's going 20 miles, but in my experience with both the 2.2's > > > and the 2.6's it just doesn't work very well and all it did was > > > add $180 to the > > cost > > > of both my projects. At least the WAP11's stack nicely on top of > > > each > > other > > > so they don't take up that much room in my office. > > > > > > Brian Taylor > > > Technology Coordinator > > > Waconda USD #272 785-781-4328 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:05 PM > > > Subject: [BAWUG] Wap11 range problem (LOS obstructions & fresnel > > > zone) > > > > > > > > > > Hi. I just entered working in a new company and they have asked > > > > me to > > set > > > > up a wireless link between two points, 800 mts away from each > > > > other > > (about > > > > 2400 fts). > > > > > > > > We have 2 wap11 version 2.6, 1 VAGI 16 dbi antenna and 1 12 dbi > > > > pacwireless omni antenna with pigtails. They're all from > > www.fab-corp.com. > > > > > > > > I'm new in this wlan world. All this equipment was bougth by the > > > > last engineer who left the company a few days ago. I've made > > > > some tests but they haven't worked at all..They work perfect > > > > indoors and even interoperate with other Planet wap1960 AP we > > > > have. We tried to make > them > > > > work in a 500 mts (1500 fts) link from the window of a 4 stories > > building > > > > and the roof of a 13 stories building. The antenna says it has > > > > "3 dg electrical down tilt". > > > > > > > > My questions are: > > > > > > > > I'm not sure why it does not work. i live in Cali, Colombia and > > > > we > don't > > > > have too many 2.4 ghz, microwave devices or simmilar in this > > > > area.I > see > > > > some trees a about 40 mts from one point. I read that about 60% > > > > of the first Fresnel zone should be without obstructions to have > > > > a link. Is > > there > > > > a way to easily calculate the width of this fresnel zone ? I'm > > > > about > to > > > > perform other tests in other environment so i would like to know > > > > how > to > > > > know the maximum distance an obstruction could be from the LOS. > > > > > > > > I 've read almost all the posts in this lists about wap11. Many > > > > people > > say > > > > they're very bad in long ranges. But why there are some guys > > > > with 8000 > > mts > > > > and even 26 miles (in maui) with wap11 and no big problems ? I > > > > see > that > > > > the most of the "bad" posts are from 2001 and 2002 when there > > > > wasn't version 2.2 nor 2.6 yet. I tried only ap and ap-client > > > > modes. What's > the > > > > exact difference between a link this way and a bridge link ? > > > > (besides having the ap<->ap-client mode with cappablity for > > > > accepting other wireless clients). > > > > > > > > Unfortunately we can't return them. It's southamerica and the > > > > shipping > > is > > > > about twice the price. I need to make them work. > > > > > > > > I'm really new in this. I would appreciate any help, suggestion, > > > > and comments about this problem. > > > > > > > > P.S.: The VAGI antennas (from pacwireless) say they have > > > > vertical and horizontal polarization depending on the way you > > > > grab it. The omni > > antenna > > > > say something like that. What is it ? thanks for any info. > > > > > > > > Julian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > > > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > > -- > > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
