This sounds  HOPE  to me.  Only where  can  I  find  200mW  802.11b  gears.
I made  it to a 2km link using WAP11 v2.6 of  linksys at 2mbps.  BUt
sometimes  it  hangs normal  for  this product.  But my  task  is on a 10
mile link.  Line  of  sight  situation is  really  not  that stiff.  along
the  way there  is no  obtrcution of  any kind.  But  near the remote  site
it is partially  being  covered  by this 10 floor building.

I can give  it a try  with  a more  powerful radio  like  what  you
recommend 200mW .  My WAP11 v2.6  are  only  giving  out 35mW paired  with
15db omni on each  end.  Can you point me to sites  where  I can read  about
them  specs  and price.

I have at  hand a pair  of  24dbi Parabolic  dish  from  hyperlink.  guess I
want to give  it a try.   Power issue is  not  a really  a concern  here  in
my side.  I can even use  amps  with out  having  problem with the  big
guys.

tnx,

George
O2Runsystems


----- Original Message -----
From: "Casey Halverson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "802.11B NEWS GROUP"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:40 PM
Subject: RE: [BAWUG] 802.11b Long Range non line of sight


"NLOS" (i really hate that acronym) can be done with 802.11b gear, but its
mainly a hit or miss.

For example, I had about a 10 mile path, 2 miles of which were solid
tree/urban clutter/housing/etc.  all of that garbage caused about 30dB of
attenuation, but I had plenty of signal left over to make a link with a
reasonable fade margin.  This is a story of a link that probably shouldnt
have even worked that did.

Next example, on a 2 mile shot, i cannot get through 30-50 feet of my apt
with 24dBi parabolics and 200mW radios.  Here is a sad story of not being
able to make it through obstructions, no matter how little or insignificant
i thought they were.

It all depends on the materials in the path.  Since we do not all possess
magical powers to determine path content, its hit and miss.

We could paper link this path to death, or you could find someone with some
gear and try it yourself.  Two 24dBi parabolics and a pair of 200mW radios
are your best shot if you want to use 802.11b.



-----Original Message-----
From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:16 AM
To: 802.11B NEWS GROUP
Subject: [BAWUG] 802.11b Long Range non line of sight
Importance: High


Hi guys,

I was  wondering if  anyone  had  came  across with an 802.11b equipment
that doesnt  need  clear  line of  sight.
I am  tasked  of bridging a link for  a10mile remote  site.  But Line  Of
sight is  not very clear.  Can anyone  please
suggest what can  i possibly do to accomplish  this.

thanks  in advance

George

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