>From a previous mail of almost two years ago. :-)

From: Tim Pozar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Walter Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Re: Passive repeater net gain
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Date: Tue Feb 12 14:08:01 2002
X-Original-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:07:48 -0800

On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 01:23:21PM -0800, Walter Bruce wrote:
> So, why did it work for Cringely?

Hmm... Let's calculate it...

He states in the article that he is using a WAP11 at his house
running at 100mW (too bad as a WAP11 splatters all up and down the
band in this mode and he is likely violating the FCC's spectrum
requirements) into a 21dBi dish.  The mountain top is 1.5 miles
away.  He is using some sort of yagis on the mountain top.  The
second path is 5 miles.  He doesn't state the gain of the yagis or
what the antenna is at the ISP.  But we can make some assumptions...

Ignoring cable/connector losses at his home he is doing 41dBm EIRP
out of his antenna (20dBm + 21dBi).  The free space loss at 1.5
miles is about 108 dB. Lets assume his yagis are 18dBi and there
is no loss on the cable connecting them together.  The 5 mile path
will have a free space loss about 118dB and we will assume he has
a 24dBi gain antenna on the roof of the ISP.  Lets add this up...

           41 dBm EIRP (20dBm + 21dBi) at his house.
        - 108 dB  Free space loss - first link
        +  18 dBi antenna gain on the mountain.
        +  18 dBi antenna gain on the mountain.
        - 118 dB  Free space loss - second link.
        +  24 dBi antenna gain at ISP.
        =========
        - 125 dBm

Most cards will start to work about -90dBm so this is 35dB below
his receiver threshold.  Unless my assumptions or interpretation
of his paths are are wrong, it doesn't look like the numbers hold
up his claim.

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