Brian and others, I can tell you that I have spent all day working on an attempt to work with Part-15. This isn't about, WISPA, Part-15 or any personal members of either organization. This IS ALL ABOUT helping those in need. Getting organized together and using WISP resources efficiently and prudently makes total sense. We have opened the door to Part-15 and are working with several manufacturers and people well known to our industry to assist us in this effort to mend fences with Part-15.
It is time for all members to stop all the criticism and get behind the effort. Trust me, we are working diligently to get this done. It is a huge effort, more volunteer help is needed. It's time to pull together. Our industry can use this effort to our benefit or we can continue to fracture the industry with criticism of others. The basic fact is this: WISPA members love and believe in our industry and so do Part-15 members! So what is the problem here? We just need to remove the personal barriers that have been built up in the last few years. The only way to do that in my eyes is to shake hands, offer help to each other and work together going forward with goals to accomplish great feats for all of our industry. Respectively, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 3:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up - OFFLIST However I don't think we should "get behind" P-15 effort. I would like it to be a joint effort by WISPs, not WISPA, P-15, Cisco, or whoever. Lets do this for the homeless down there with the side benefit of a little name (WISP) recognition. Not for a specific group to "get all the glory". I know WISPA is doing this for the right reasons, but still......Has a WISPA board member contacted P-15? I, as a paid member of WISPA, want to coordinate with P-15 and make this a joint effort. As soon as I get paid I will donate. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > That was not offlist..... > > John Scrivner wrote: > >> Could you please quote one place where I have asked for any person to >> NOT support any effort including Part-15? By the way, thanks for >> belittling the efforts of myself and several other WISPA members. I >> have given $450 in the last 48 hours myself directly to people >> helping the effort. I would be there physically helping right now if >> I could. I hope you and everyone gets involved in some way. Please >> stop bashing me, Mac and WISPA for what we are doing. >> Scriv >> >> >> >> Mark Koskenmaki wrote: >> >>> Rick, Bullit has a list set up for thier efforts down there. Tehy're >>> organizing an emergency communications response team as we read, >>> so... Get >>> on the list. I'm no fan of Bullit's either, but whatever I may feel >>> personally, doesn't matter. Whoever is putting together action... >>> I'm all >>> for it and will back in any way I can. >>> >>> he has a website and a link to the list on the p-15 website. >>> >>> I'd go tomorrow if I had financial help. I can't even get there >>> with what >>> I have in the bank. >>> >>> sad. This is the time of life when we realize just how badly we need >>> millionaires with a load of money in the bank. Too bad so many people >>> wanted them taxed to oblivion... >>> >>> >>> >>> North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 >>> personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net >>> sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net >>> Fast Internet, NO WIRES! >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> - >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Harnish" >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 10:12 AM >>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> My efforts have been hampered by a busy schedule and a request to our >>>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA >>> >>> >>>> attorney to find out exactly what we can legally do when it comes to >>>> funneling money directly to individual WISPs in need. I can tell >>>> you that >>>> it is very frustrating to deal with when there are so many people >>>> in need. >>>> I will try to get something on the website today. Cooperating with >>>> >>> >>> >>> Part-15 >>> >>> >>>> efforts is fine with me. You will get no chest puffing from this guy >>>> either. I have already committed that I will start the WISPA >>>> relief fund >>>> >>> >>> >>> to >>> >>> >>>> help Joe Laura (member of WISPA) who's business and home has been >>>> devastated. I will be sending a paypal donation of $1000 to >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] today to start that fund. >>>> >>>> Anyone wishing to donate money to this effort, please make a note >>>> on the >>>> paypal donation form for WISPA Hurricane Relief Fund. Other >>>> donations for >>>> refugee support should be made through your churches, the Red Cross or >>>> directly to Mac Dearman for his local efforts in northern LA. His >>>> paypal >>>> email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> I look at these efforts as multi-leveled. There is no one avenue >>>> that is >>>> better than another. The fact is that all avenues lead to the same >>>> goal >>>> >>> >>> >>> and >>> >>> >>>> that is to help these poor people in need with everything from >>>> money to >>>> infrastructure. Arguing about who is better or who is in the lead is >>>> childish in my mind. >>>> >>>> I will send Bullit an email today to see if we can cooperate >>>> together in >>>> this effort. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> Rick Harnish >>>> President >>>> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. >>>> 260-827-2482 Office >>>> 260-307-4000 Cell >>>> 260-918-4340 VoIP >>>> www.oibw.net >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>> Behalf Of JohnnyO >>>> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:26 AM >>>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up >>>> Importance: High >>>> >>>> Oh lord - here we go - nothing like a good pissin match in the >>>> middle of >>>> the morning on Friday eh ? >>>> >>>> I definitely applaud Mac for providing the Internet and VOIP to the >>>> shelters his church has setup for the Refugees. We have 4 or 5 >>>> shelters >>>> in the area that we are providing "internet" to - no go on VOIP - >>>> we are >>>> not prepared to do it unfortunately. >>>> >>>> WISPA does need to stepup and support Part-15.org's efforts as >>>> well. To >>>> not minimize what Mac or myself or other WISPs down here have done >>>> on a >>>> SMALL scale, this project Bullit is heading will need help. It's time >>>> for you leaders to bury the hatchet and overlook past history for >>>> awhile >>>> on this one. >>>> >>>> Scriv helping 1 shelter or supporting the efforts of a major Wireless >>>> rollout across 3 states on the coast - well - let's just say - >>>> nevermind. Any help that is provided is worth while - I just can't >>>> believe that WISPA is so weak that it is ONLY ABLE TO HELP 1 >>>> INDIVIDUAL >>>> ! Get real man ! >>>> >>>> JohnnyO >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>> Behalf Of John Scrivner >>>> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:43 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up >>>> >>>> >>>> One of our WISPA members, Mac Dearman, has already setup VOIP, >>>> Internet, >>>> >>>> food and shelter for evacuees, He is doing this right now in >>>> Louisiana. >>>> I do not care who gets the glory on this. I sent Mac $250. He has put >>>> out a call for money, food, equipment and people to help him there >>>> today. I am sure there are many people and organizations willing to >>>> help and I applaud all their efforts including those of Part-15. >>>> Right >>>> now I consider Mac's effort in place there to be our effort through >>>> WISPA and I think he is our front line and we should support him. I >>>> say >>>> we all give what we can and let those in place doing the work continue >>>> to help. I plan to go there myself and help but I cannot right now. So >>>> you ask if WISPA missed the boat? Call one of Mac's shelter VOIP lines >>>> and ask the evacuees who answers the phone there if we are helping >>>> today >>>> >>>> through Mac's efforts. >>>> Scriv >>>> >>>> >>>> Rick Smith wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I'm wondering if WISPA has missed the boat for the relief effort. >>>>> >>>>> Shouldn't wispa stand behind and work with Part-15 on this one? This >>>>> isn't a race to look best, but an effort to put WISPs on the map as >>>>> reliable and trustworthy! >>>>> >>>>> http://www.part-15.org/emergencyrelief/equipment.html >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>>> Behalf Of Rudolph Worrell >>>>> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 5:48 AM >>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up >>>>> >>>>> I am not sure where you will be getting uplink service to get out to >>>>> the world from New Orleans but here is a link to someone who may be >>>>> able to help with that. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quoting Matt Liotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I think at this point there is the support needed to provide help >>>>>> for >>>>>> the hurricane, but we need some organization. It seems to me this >>>>>> should be a WISPA lead effort. I think someone from the board should >>>>>> lead the effort or have the board designate a volunteer to lead the >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> effort. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> We are ready to provide support ourselves. We can offer Tropos >>>>>> equipment for instant Wi-Fi meshes as well as VoIP termination of >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> phone calls. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> -Matt >>>>>> -- >>>>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>>> >>>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ >>>>> -- >>>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>>> >>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>> >>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>>> Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/86 - Release Date: >>>>> 8/31/2005 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
