"and the FCC are desperately trying to re-establish telecommunications throughout New Orleans, and are begging for equipment and help from ISPs and WISPs."
 
Was it really necessary for the writer to use the words "begging"? What a jerk.  Maybe Red Cross or Cox & Verizon can send the WISPs some of that 10 million, so WISPs can save their butt and restore service to their customers, that I'm sure will be out for MONTHS!  Maybe if the ILECs and Cable companies didn't buy the legislature and detroy the ISP industry, they's still have money left to donate. Sorry for the rant, but the "begging" comment pissed me off. Maybe the writer should be down their helping out in stead of writing trash. 
 
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up

FYI   P-15 made headlines on BBS 10 minutes ago.

http://www.dslreports.com/

Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
Who's bashing, Scrivner?     I think what everyone's doing is admirable.

Rick asked a question, and I thought it might be helpful to point out
something going on he might not be aware of... and that no matter what some
people might feel like, it should be irrelevant...

Mark


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up - OFFLIST


  
Could you please quote one place where I have asked for any person to
NOT support any effort including Part-15? By the way, thanks for
belittling the efforts of myself and several other WISPA members. I have
given $450 in the last 48 hours myself directly to people helping the
effort. I would be there physically helping right now if I could. I hope
you and everyone gets involved in some way. Please stop bashing me, Mac
and WISPA for what we are doing.
Scriv



Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

    
Rick, Bullit has a list set up for thier efforts down there.   Tehy're
organizing an emergency communications response team as we read, so...
      
Get
  
on the list.   I'm no fan of Bullit's either, but whatever I may feel
personally, doesn't matter.   Whoever is putting together action... I'm
      
all
  
for it and will back in any way I can.

he has a website and a link to the list on the p-15 website.

I'd go tomorrow if I had financial help.   I can't even get there with
      
what
  
I have in the bank.

sad.  This is the time of life when we realize just how badly we need
millionaires with a load of money in the bank.   Too bad so many people
wanted them taxed to oblivion...



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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up




      
My efforts have been hampered by a busy schedule and a request to our


        
WISPA


      
attorney to find out exactly what we can legally do when it comes to
funneling money directly to individual WISPs in need.  I can tell you
        
that
  
it is very frustrating to deal with when there are so many people in
        
need.
  
I will try to get something on the website today.  Cooperating with


        
Part-15


      
efforts is fine with me.  You will get no chest puffing from this guy
either.  I have already committed that I will start the WISPA relief
        
fund
  
        
to


      
help Joe Laura (member of WISPA) who's business and home has been
devastated.  I will be sending a paypal donation of $1000 to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] today to start that fund.

Anyone wishing to donate money to this effort, please make a note on the
paypal donation form for WISPA Hurricane Relief Fund.  Other donations
        
for
  
refugee support should be made through your churches, the Red Cross or
directly to Mac Dearman for his local efforts in northern LA.  His
        
paypal
  
email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED].

I look at these efforts as multi-leveled.  There is no one avenue that
        
is
  
better than another.  The fact is that all avenues lead to the same goal


        
and


      
that is to help these poor people in need with everything from money to
infrastructure.  Arguing about who is better or who is in the lead is
childish in my mind.

I will send Bullit an email today to see if we can cooperate together in
this effort.

Thank you,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:26 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up
Importance: High

Oh lord - here we go - nothing like a good pissin match in the middle of
the morning on Friday eh ?

I definitely applaud Mac for providing the Internet and VOIP to the
shelters his church has setup for the Refugees. We have 4 or 5 shelters
in the area that we are providing "internet" to - no go on VOIP - we are
not prepared to do it unfortunately.

WISPA does need to stepup and support Part-15.org's efforts as well. To
not minimize what Mac or myself or other WISPs down here have done on a
SMALL scale, this project Bullit is heading will need help. It's time
for you leaders to bury the hatchet and overlook past history for awhile
on this one.

Scriv helping 1 shelter or supporting the efforts of a major Wireless
rollout across 3 states on the coast - well - let's just say -
nevermind. Any help that is provided is worth while - I just can't
believe that WISPA is so weak that it is ONLY ABLE TO HELP 1 INDIVIDUAL
! Get real man !

JohnnyO

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:43 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up


One of our WISPA members, Mac Dearman, has already setup VOIP, Internet,

food and shelter for evacuees, He is doing this right now in Louisiana.
I do not care who gets the glory on this. I sent Mac $250. He has put
out a call for money, food, equipment and people to help him there
today.  I am sure there are many people and organizations willing to
help and I applaud all their efforts including those of Part-15.  Right
now I consider Mac's effort in place there to be our effort through
WISPA and I think he is our front line and we should support him. I say
we all give what we can and let those in place doing the work continue
to help. I plan to go there myself and help but I cannot right now. So
you ask if WISPA missed the boat? Call one of Mac's shelter VOIP lines
and ask the evacuees who answers the phone there if we are helping today

through Mac's efforts.
Scriv


Rick Smith wrote:



        
I'm wondering if WISPA has missed the boat for the relief effort.

Shouldn't wispa stand behind and work with Part-15 on this one?  This
isn't a race to look best, but an effort to put WISPs on the map as
reliable and trustworthy!

http://www.part-15.org/emergencyrelief/equipment.html

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On


Behalf Of Rudolph Worrell
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 5:48 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up

I am not sure where you will be getting uplink service to get out to
the world from New Orleans but here is a link to someone who may be
able to help with that.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/


Quoting Matt Liotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:





          
I think at this point there is the support needed to provide help for
the hurricane, but we need some organization. It seems to me this
should be a WISPA lead effort. I think someone from the board should
lead the effort or have the board designate a volunteer to lead the


            
effort.


        
We are ready to provide support ourselves. We can offer Tropos
equipment for instant Wi-Fi meshes as well as VoIP termination of


            
phone calls.


        
-Matt
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