Well, I've found myself to be personna non grata all over the place today.
Seems every time I open my mouth, I am lauded as a wonderful thinker and a
complete idiot all at the same time. Guess I just have some latent knack
at
stirring people up. I might as well end up getting myself removed from
every list... so...
Let me respond - though this is NOT an argument. I'd just like to add a
little different perspective to what people see...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:49 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up
I retract my previous statement, due to several things on the P15 side of
the fence that appear to be ugly.
I don't believe P15 is doing this without self promotion in mind.
Whether this is true or not doesn't really matter. I don't think IBM,
Intel, Cisco, WalMart, SBC, Microsoft and so on (the list is VERY long,
VERY
long) who are giving large amounts of money and products to the relief
effort do this purely for humanitarian reasons. They plug themselves to
every media outlet that will listen and publish... and promote themselves
doing so. Does it matter? Well, motives may matter... but probably
not
to the person who can call his family, or find his family, or try to find
a
new life becuase someone donated something to make it happen. Does it
change our view of these companies and organizations? Probably not.
"The
Lord loveth a cheerful giver." But whether what the giver gave was given
cheerfully or grudgingly, it still tends to do the same for the person
who
gets it. The difference is what it does for the one doing the giving.
Let
them find thier own reward or shame.
This is an effort that needs to be thankless, and in THAT fact, it will
come out that <a wireless organization> stepped up to the plate, and
because
of their efforts, a whole lot of people were more comfortable.
Trust me, it will, for the most part, be thankless. Not a freaking
soul's
gonna remember (except those who see certain names circulated widely and
often in our daily circles) who did what in a year.
Imagine, after the city's cleaned up, and we got to collectively KEEP the
antenna locations we borrowed to put the network in place, there'd be
interviews on tv, etc that asked WISPA officials for their comments on the
overall process, and the tag line could be simply "Call WISPA today to
find
out how they can get a local WISP to help you!"
What a great notion. But isn't that less that perfectly altruistic, as
well? Not that I'm criticising it at all.
That said, I'm helping Mac and Johnny in their efforts, directly, for the
same reason I never give money to the salvation army or the red cross. I
want to know where my money / donations are going and what they're being
used for.
Money I have in almost no quantity. Time and effort I do.
I think a whole lot of people here ought to think real hard about this
new-found relationship with P15 that wouldn't exist without tragedy as the
underlying cement.
I would like to think that all of us grow a bit. And if personal
frictions
result in the future, or even now... Let's not let that get in the way of
making the most of every opportunity to do something, no matter what we
think of some of those in charge.
There'll be plenty of time in the future to hash this out. I think it's
a
bit distracting now. Do what you think you should do, do it well, and do
it as best you can. That's as good as anyone can do, isn't it?
North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Smith
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:28 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up
I'm wondering if WISPA has missed the boat for the relief effort.
Shouldn't wispa stand behind and work with Part-15 on this one? This
isn't a race to look best, but an effort to put WISPs on the map as
reliable
and trustworthy!
http://www.part-15.org/emergencyrelief/equipment.html
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rudolph Worrell
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 5:48 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up
I am not sure where you will be getting uplink service to get out to the
world from New Orleans but here is a link to someone who may be able to
help
with that.
http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
Quoting Matt Liotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I think at this point there is the support needed to provide help for
> the hurricane, but we need some organization. It seems to me this
> should be a WISPA lead effort. I think someone from the board should
> lead the effort or have the board designate a volunteer to lead the
effort.
>
> We are ready to provide support ourselves. We can offer Tropos
> equipment for instant Wi-Fi meshes as well as VoIP termination of phone
calls.
>
> -Matt
> --
> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected]
>
> Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>
> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
>
-------------------------------------------------
This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
--
WISPA Wireless List: [email protected]
Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
--
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/86 - Release Date: 8/31/2005
--
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/86 - Release Date: 8/31/2005
--
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/89 - Release Date: 9/2/2005
--
WISPA Wireless List: [email protected]
Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
--
WISPA Wireless List: [email protected]
Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
--
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 9/5/2005
