Huh?

They are included ...

Gino A. Villarini, 
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.aeronetpr.com
787.767.7466

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of George
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

Plus the piggy or cable and connectors.

George

G.Villarini wrote:
> $100 for a 900 antenna? Yikes man were are buying?  I buy 11 db yagis for
> around $40 , 15 db for $60 and 17db for $80
> 
> Gino A. Villarini, 
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.aeronetpr.com
> 787.767.7466
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of A. Huppenthal
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 6:22 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
> 
> we're talking 900 mhz, right? I don't use Moto 2.4 or 900 mhz stuff. 
> never tried 2.4 and the 900 mhz didn't work for me - but it was a press. 
> some 15 miles with NLOS so.. it could have been a path too challanging 
> even for 900 mhz.
> 
> $295 for a 900 mhz radios is very good. You still have to add $100 for a 
> 900 mhz antenna. I've stayed away from 900 mhz mostly because of the 
> learning curve and additional spectrum/antenna considerations. They are 
> much bigger of course than 5.7 or 5.7 antennas/reflectors for the same 
> gain, but that's obvious.
> 
> Still $260 for 5.7 ghz radio with spectrum analyzer built-in, audio tone 
> alignment, weights a few ounces, goes a few megabits / second, supports 
> vlan tagging, dhcp / nat / shoulder-spectrums / has snmp / is supported 
> by a network mass-firmware upgrade program (yes, its really crap, but at 
> least its *there*). I could easily do remote upgrades of 30 units at a 
> time without headache to move to new featured firmware - live, online, 
> no crap-outs...
> 
> Like I said, it isn't for everyone, that's for sure. It just was for me.
> 
> Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
> 
> 
>>I've never done business with them either, but their 100 pack prices 
>>is 295 each for connectorized.  Cheaper then some "roll your own".
>>
>>A. Huppenthal wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm not a supplier, nor do I want to be one to the list, nor do I 
>>>want to research on behalf of the list.
>>>
>>>google:
>>>motorola canopy SM bulk 100 pack.
>>>
>>>I picked the first couple of hits that showed prices.. That's it.
>>>
>>>I don't do business with Double Radius, so I wouldn't know.
>>>
>>>Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>432631      Bulk Pack 50  900 MHz Subscriber Modules        BP9000SM-50
> 
> 
>>>>$26,250 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Double Radius has 25 pack for  : $8,500.00  double to 50 pack and it 17k
>>>>
>>>>Will you please tell me who the Canopy major supplier is so I can 
>>>>avoid at all costs.
>>>>
>>>>The 100 pack is THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS cheaper at double radius.  
>>>>HOLY CRAP!
>>>>
>>>>Unless I am reading something wrong.......
>>>>
>>>>http://www.doubleradius.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.81/.f
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>A. Huppenthal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I think WISPA has expressed its disinterest in a 'buying club'. 
>>>>>However, if members on this list want to organize a 'buying club' - 
>>>>>I'm all for it. Its clearly one of the reasons you will get your 
>>>>>ass kicked by the telco and cable company - they have buying power 
>>>>>and can get what you want and buy in 10s and 20s  for 1/2 the price.
>>>>>
>>>>>Next to FCC, my biggest concern is that my *COSTS* are higher than 
>>>>>Telco and Cable. Aside from the totally defunct Anti-trust activity 
>>>>>of our government, *COSTS* are going to kill WISPs off. Hardware is 
>>>>>a part of that overall model. The rest of the costs are contained 
>>>>>in my business.. and I'm happy to talk about that with other WISPs 
>>>>>at the *first* WISPA meeting.  In fact, I'd likely talk about it at 
>>>>>ISPCON as well. (would be my third talk there). Our industry really 
>>>>>needs to pull together to achieve higher efficiencies (how to run a 
>>>>>WISP), better pricing (buying power), improved governmental rules 
>>>>>(FCC and others through a louder voice).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't specifically reccomend any of this equipment. Get some and 
>>>>>figure out if it works for you on your own dime. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Want a relevent example: a single 900 Mhz Subscriber Unit = $725. 
>>>>>Buy 500 and get them at $444 instead.
>>>>>
>>>>>Here's an off-the-shelf price list from a Canopy major supplier.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>432679     900 Mhz Access Point    9000AP          $1,895
>>>>>427612     900 Mhz Access Point AES        9001AP  $2,395
>>>>>498606     900 Mhz Access Point Connectorized (External antenna)  
>>>>>9000APC    $1,855 
>>>>>487642     900 Mhz Access Point AES Connectorized (External 
>>>>>antenna)   9001APC         $2,355 
>>>>>432631     Bulk Pack 50  900 MHz Subscriber Modules        BP9000SM-50
> 
> 
>>>>>$26,250 
>>>>>452650     Bulk Pack 100  900 MHz Subscriber Modules  
>>>>>BP9000SM-100       $47,500 
>>>>>459676     Bulk Pack 500  900 MHz Subscriber Modules    
>>>>>BP9000SM-500       $222,500 
>>>>>460660     Bulk Pack 50  900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized  
>>>>>BP9000SMC-50       $24,250 
>>>>>467696     Bulk Pack 100  900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized 
>>>>>BP9000SMC-100      $43,500
>>>>>483635     Bulk Pack 500  900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized  
>>>>>BP9000SMC-500      $202,500 
>>>>>433674     900 Mhz Subscriber Module       9000SM          $725 
>>>>>430697     900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES   9001SM          $975 
>>>>>499667     900 Mhz Subscriber Module Connectorized (External 
>>>>>antenna)   9000SMC         $685
>>>>>472614     900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES Connectorized (External 
>>>>>antenna)   9001SMC         $935
>>>>>435698     900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna         
>>>>>
>>>>>AN900
>>>>>
>>>>>   $100
>>>>>446693     Bulk Pack 50: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna   
>>>>>
>>>>>BPAN900-50
>>>>>
>>>>>   $4,500
>>>>>413627     Bulk Pack 100: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna 
>>>>>BPAN900-100        $8,000
>>>>>483655     900MHz Demo Kit - Connectorized         TK10010
> 
> $3,000
> 
>>>>>495685     900MHz Access Point Cluster Kit - Connectorized
> 
> TK10028 
> 
>>>>>$30,000 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Peter R. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Would he give WISPA a good rate?  Anyone interested could get 
>>>>>>>quotes and maybe he could cut us a break?  I want this trade 
>>>>>>>association to get some members services so people have a reason 
>>>>>>>to join.  With added services comes members and money.  With 
>>>>>>>members and money comes "pull" at the FCC level.  Then we get 
>>>>>>>good stuff from the FCC and WISPs rule the world.  *Right Brain* 
>>>>>>>Lets do what we can to get more Principal Members.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up 
>>>>>>eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in 
>>>>>>being a volume club.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Peter
>>>>>>4isps.com
>>>>>
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> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-- 
>>>>Brian Rohrbacher
>>>>Reliable Internet, LLC
>>>>www.reliableinter.net
>>>>Cell 269-838-8338
>>>>
>>>>"Caught up in the Air" 1 Thess. 4:17
>>>>
>>>
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>>> 
>>>
>>
>>-- 
>>Brian Rohrbacher
>>Reliable Internet, LLC
>>www.reliableinter.net
>>Cell 269-838-8338
>>
>>"Caught up in the Air" 1 Thess. 4:17
>>
> 
> 

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