Well hell Gino Where are you buying? i want a piece of that too. ---- Original message ---- >Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:23:49 -0700 >From: "A. Huppenthal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices >To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > >great prices! > >G.Villarini wrote: > >>$100 for a 900 antenna? Yikes man were are buying? I buy 11 db yagis for >>around $40 , 15 db for $60 and 17db for $80 >> >>Gino A. Villarini, >>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>www.aeronetpr.com >>787.767.7466 >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>Behalf Of A. Huppenthal >>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 6:22 PM >>To: WISPA General List >>Subject: Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices >> >>we're talking 900 mhz, right? I don't use Moto 2.4 or 900 mhz stuff. >>never tried 2.4 and the 900 mhz didn't work for me - but it was a press. >>some 15 miles with NLOS so.. it could have been a path too challanging >>even for 900 mhz. >> >>$295 for a 900 mhz radios is very good. You still have to add $100 for a >>900 mhz antenna. I've stayed away from 900 mhz mostly because of the >>learning curve and additional spectrum/antenna considerations. They are >>much bigger of course than 5.7 or 5.7 antennas/reflectors for the same >>gain, but that's obvious. >> >>Still $260 for 5.7 ghz radio with spectrum analyzer built-in, audio tone >>alignment, weights a few ounces, goes a few megabits / second, supports >>vlan tagging, dhcp / nat / shoulder-spectrums / has snmp / is supported >>by a network mass-firmware upgrade program (yes, its really crap, but at >>least its *there*). I could easily do remote upgrades of 30 units at a >>time without headache to move to new featured firmware - live, online, >>no crap-outs... >> >>Like I said, it isn't for everyone, that's for sure. It just was for me. >> >>Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >> >> >> >>>I've never done business with them either, but their 100 pack prices >>>is 295 each for connectorized. Cheaper then some "roll your own". >>> >>>A. Huppenthal wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I'm not a supplier, nor do I want to be one to the list, nor do I >>>>want to research on behalf of the list. >>>> >>>>google: >>>>motorola canopy SM bulk 100 pack. >>>> >>>>I picked the first couple of hits that showed prices.. That's it. >>>> >>>>I don't do business with Double Radius, so I wouldn't know. >>>> >>>>Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 >>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>$26,250 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Double Radius has 25 pack for : $8,500.00 double to 50 pack and it 17k >>>>> >>>>>Will you please tell me who the Canopy major supplier is so I can >>>>>avoid at all costs. >>>>> >>>>>The 100 pack is THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS cheaper at double radius. >>>>>HOLY CRAP! >>>>> >>>>>Unless I am reading something wrong....... >>>>> >>>>>http://www.doubleradius.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.81/.f >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>A. Huppenthal wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I think WISPA has expressed its disinterest in a 'buying club'. >>>>>>However, if members on this list want to organize a 'buying club' - >>>>>>I'm all for it. Its clearly one of the reasons you will get your >>>>>>ass kicked by the telco and cable company - they have buying power >>>>>>and can get what you want and buy in 10s and 20s for 1/2 the price. >>>>>> >>>>>>Next to FCC, my biggest concern is that my *COSTS* are higher than >>>>>>Telco and Cable. Aside from the totally defunct Anti-trust activity >>>>>>of our government, *COSTS* are going to kill WISPs off. Hardware is >>>>>>a part of that overall model. The rest of the costs are contained >>>>>>in my business.. and I'm happy to talk about that with other WISPs >>>>>>at the *first* WISPA meeting. In fact, I'd likely talk about it at >>>>>>ISPCON as well. (would be my third talk there). Our industry really >>>>>>needs to pull together to achieve higher efficiencies (how to run a >>>>>>WISP), better pricing (buying power), improved governmental rules >>>>>>(FCC and others through a louder voice). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I don't specifically reccomend any of this equipment. Get some and >>>>>>figure out if it works for you on your own dime. :-) >>>>>> >>>>>>Want a relevent example: a single 900 Mhz Subscriber Unit = $725. >>>>>>Buy 500 and get them at $444 instead. >>>>>> >>>>>>Here's an off-the-shelf price list from a Canopy major supplier. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>432679 900 Mhz Access Point 9000AP $1,895 >>>>>>427612 900 Mhz Access Point AES 9001AP $2,395 >>>>>>498606 900 Mhz Access Point Connectorized (External antenna) >>>>>>9000APC $1,855 >>>>>>487642 900 Mhz Access Point AES Connectorized (External >>>>>>antenna) 9001APC $2,355 >>>>>>432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>$26,250 >>>>>>452650 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules >>>>>>BP9000SM-100 $47,500 >>>>>>459676 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules >>>>>>BP9000SM-500 $222,500 >>>>>>460660 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized >>>>>>BP9000SMC-50 $24,250 >>>>>>467696 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized >>>>>>BP9000SMC-100 $43,500 >>>>>>483635 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized >>>>>>BP9000SMC-500 $202,500 >>>>>>433674 900 Mhz Subscriber Module 9000SM $725 >>>>>>430697 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES 9001SM $975 >>>>>>499667 900 Mhz Subscriber Module Connectorized (External >>>>>>antenna) 9000SMC $685 >>>>>>472614 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES Connectorized (External >>>>>>antenna) 9001SMC $935 >>>>>>435698 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna >>>>>> >>>>>>AN900 >>>>>> >>>>>> $100 >>>>>>446693 Bulk Pack 50: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna >>>>>> >>>>>>BPAN900-50 >>>>>> >>>>>> $4,500 >>>>>>413627 Bulk Pack 100: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna >>>>>>BPAN900-100 $8,000 >>>>>>483655 900MHz Demo Kit - Connectorized TK10010 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>$3,000 >> >> >>>>>>495685 900MHz Access Point Cluster Kit - Connectorized >>>>>> >>>>>> >>TK10028 >> >> >>>>>>$30,000 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Peter R. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Would he give WISPA a good rate? Anyone interested could get >>>>>>>>quotes and maybe he could cut us a break? I want this trade >>>>>>>>association to get some members services so people have a reason >>>>>>>>to join. With added services comes members and money. With >>>>>>>>members and money comes "pull" at the FCC level. Then we get >>>>>>>>good stuff from the FCC and WISPs rule the world. *Right Brain* >>>>>>>>Lets do what we can to get more Principal Members. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up >>>>>>>eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in >>>>>>>being a volume club. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Peter >>>>>>>4isps.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ >>>>>> >>>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>>Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>12/12/2005 >> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Brian Rohrbacher >>>>>Reliable Internet, LLC >>>>>www.reliableinter.net >>>>>Cell 269-838-8338 >>>>> >>>>>"Caught up in the Air" 1 Thess. 4:17 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- >>>> >>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: >>>> >>>> >>12/12/2005 >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-- >>>Brian Rohrbacher >>>Reliable Internet, LLC >>>www.reliableinter.net >>>Cell 269-838-8338 >>> >>>"Caught up in the Air" 1 Thess. 4:17 >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > >-- >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. 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