Airspan can be had around 3 and change for indoor su's. outdoors around 4 and a quarter...
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:09:58 -0600, "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > OUCH! I have bought singles that cheap from doubleradius > > Mac Dearman > Maximum Access, LLC. > www.inetsouth.com > www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) > 318-728-8600 - Rayville > 318-728-9600 > 318-376-2562 - cell > > > > > Rick Smith wrote: > > > > > Travis has gotta be full of it! > > > > Distributors for Trango previously, when buying in 100 packs, never > > got prices better than 420... > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *On Behalf Of *Brian Rohrbacher > > *Sent:* Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:08 AM > > *To:* WISPA General List > > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices > > > > You get Trango cheaper? Prices please! > > > > Travis Johnson wrote: > > > >> Wow.... that's more than I pay for the Trango 900mhz and it has dual > >> polarity integrated antennas. ;) > >> > >> Travis > >> Microserv > >> > >> Ron Wallace wrote: > >> > >>>My Man. Brian, Excellent. > >>> > >>>---- Original message ---- > >>> > >>> > >>>>Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:53:40 -0500 > >>>>From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>Subject: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices > >>>>To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > >>>> > >>>> Read it and weep "nay sayers" ;-) > >>>> > >>>> I found a VAR to work with. > >>>> > >>>> Prices for canopy 900. > >>>> > >>>> Connectorized- $262.60 > >>>> Integrated- $328.7 > >>>> > >>>> All details are being posted to "Principal Members List". > >>>> You must be a paid WISPA member to take advantage of the > >>>> offer. > >>>> I'd like to get an estimate of volume to the VAR. > >>>> Pay up to WISPA and hit me offlist to how many you think you > >>>> could use a month (you won't be committed to this, it's just > >>>> for a general idea) > >>>> > >>>> Brian > >>>> > >>>> Ron Wallace wrote: > >>>> > >>>>Go for it Brian, Doesn't matter what others think, if we can save some > >>>>money, good. > >>>> > >>>>Ron Wallace > >>>> > >>>>---- Original message ---- > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:58:47 -0500 > >>>>From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices > >>>>To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > >>>> > >>>>I have never done a group buy, but this is how I would approach it. > >>>> > >>>>First step. Principal Members only. You want a deal, fork over 200 > >>>>some bucks and support the industry. > >>>>Second step. Find 10 people who want ten units. (500 if possible, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>but > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>prolly 100 pack to start) > >>>>Third step. Go to moto website and look up resellers. > >>>>fourth step. Call resellers and get quote. Say "look here. I have a > >>>>buying group. I want 100 SMs, charged to 10 credit cards and shipped > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>to > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>10 addresses. Send me a quote to email" Forward quote to next > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>reseller > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>and go from there. Whoever is cheaper wins. If they want the > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>business > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>of the buying group, they better figure out how to cut a deal. Am I > >>>>acting like a know it all Charles? Would all the resellers say screw > >>>>you if I approached like this? > >>>>If all resellers say we can't do this.....then I would (big trust > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>here) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>run all cards through paypal and pay with one lump sum and re ship > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>from > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>here. Now add the 1.9% for paypal and add more for extra > >>>>shipping....don't know what that would be, but it would be figured > >>>>before hand. > >>>> > >>>>I just made all that up, but it seems like it would work. Only > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>question > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>is how warranty is handled. By MAC addy or by who bought the radio. > >>>> > >>>>Someone let me know if my approach is out of line. Never done this > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>and > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>might be reinventing the wheel (I hope it rolls) > >>>> > >>>>Brian > >>>> > >>>>A. Huppenthal wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Charles, > >>>> > >>>>I know you don't support the idea of group buys. Enough said. Fact > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>is > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>I've done group buys with high-end equipment before - it wasn't > >>>>difficult at all. If you are comparing a public distributor to a > >>>>closed membership buying club, you aren't comparing apples to > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>apples. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>I sure as hell don't want to create a distributor organization. > >>>> > >>>>However, as our discussion continues, I might be willing to send > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Jim, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>George, Brian or whomever offers a group buy $2600 for 10 Canopy SMs > >>>>if the buy is 100 units and we're all lined up. I don't need > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>support, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>training, stocking, any of the services that distributors offer. > >>>>Frankly, I don't need my distributor under cutting me to sell direct > >>>>to customers. You have your pros and cons for going to distributors > >>>>for *everything*. Certainly what's being discussed here isn't > >>>>pretending to create a distributor that has *everything*.. > >>>> > >>>>Frankly I think the board with the exception of myself, uniformly > >>>>doesn't support group buys. > >>>> > >>>>The buyers create the relatonship for the purpose of the buy, it > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>ends > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>when the product is delivered. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Charles Wu wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>><snip> > >>>>You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up > >>>>eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in > >>>>being a volume club. > >>>></snip> > >>>> > >>>>We all know that there's more to a WISP than just putting up an AP > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>and > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>getting a T1 line > >>>> > >>>>Having run both a WISP and a distribution company, I can personally > >>>>attest > >>>>to the fact that there's more to distribution (which is what your > >>>>proposing) > >>>>than breaking up a 500 pack amongst WISP > >>>> > >>>>Have you considered all the risks / implications that the buying > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>group > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>faces? For starters, there's the question of payment -- given that > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>the > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>buying group has no / limited credit, chances are that any vendor > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>will > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>require cash up front for the purchase > >>>> > >>>>So, for example, say Motorola Canopy is the product WISPA chooses > >>>>Then WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ $100k to purchase > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>that 500 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>pack (at say, $200 / unit for simplicity's sake) > >>>>Then, WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ a warehouse to store > >>>>stuff > >>>>Then, WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ a shipper/logistics > >>>>guy to > >>>>repackage / ship stuff > >>>> > >>>>On top of that, chances are, 50% of the WISPs who committed to > >>>>purchasing > >>>>the packs will renege and/or delay their deliveries due to > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>unforseen > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>things > >>>>that always happen in deployments (e.g., lightning, customers > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>don't > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>sign > >>>>on, interference from competitor, DSL coming to town) > >>>> > >>>>So now, WISPA / Buying Group needs to hire a sales guy to sell > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>excess > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>units > >>>> > >>>>Now, you've added overhead (and you need to add an administrative > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>fee / > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>margin to compensate) > >>>> > >>>>In the meantime, either > >>>> > >>>>1. Motorola to announce a 50% price reduction in their Canopy line, > >>>>and all > >>>>WISPA members now wanting the new lower price (therefore causing a > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>huge > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>loss) > >>>>2. Trango (or some other company) to come out w/ the new "flavor of > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>the > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>month" and no one wanting the inventory anymore, sticking WISPA w/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>$100k > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>worth of boat anchors > >>>> > >>>>-Charles > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>------------------------------------------- > >>>>CWLab > >>>>Technology Architects > >>>>http://www.cwlab.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>Brian Rohrbacher > >>>>Reliable Internet, LLC > >>>>www.reliableinter.net > >>>>Cell 269-838-8338 > >>>> > >>>>"Caught up in the Air" 1 Thess. 4:17 > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>>> > >>>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>>> > >>>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Ron Wallace > >>>>Hahnron, Inc. > >>>>220 S. Jackson St. > >>>>Addison, MI 49220 > >>>> > >>>>Phone: (517) 547-8410 > >>>>Mobile: (517) 605-4542 > >>>>e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>Brian Rohrbacher > >>>>Reliable Internet, LLC > >>>>www.reliableinter.net > >>>>Cell 269-838-8338 > >>>> > >>>>"Caught up in the Air" 1 Thess. 4:17 > >>>>________________ > >>>>-- > >>>>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>>> > >>>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>>> > >>>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Ron Wallace > >>>Hahnron, Inc. > >>>220 S. Jackson St. > >>>Addison, MI 49220 > >>> > >>>Phone: (517) 547-8410 > >>>Mobile: (517) 605-4542 > >>>e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> > >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/199 - Release Date: 12/13/2005 > >> > >> > >> > > > >-- > >Brian Rohrbacher > >Reliable Internet, LLC > >www.reliableinter.net > >Cell 269-838-8338 > > > >"Caught up in the Air" 1 Thess. 4:17 > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: 12/16/2005 > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: 12/16/2005 > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
