There are operators who applied for say, an experimental license with 500 subscribers
"testing" the RF portion of the service.

It is a risk, but since that spectrum is slated to be unlicensed, I doubt the risk is too great.

-

Jeff



On Jan 5, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Charles Wu wrote:

Yes -- experimental licenses have been available for quite some time now --
we have one =)
But if you read the FCC rules closely -- there are A LOT of limitations, and
no, running a business off such a license is a BAD IDEA

-Charles


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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 2:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform


This has been discussed in depth on the private WISPA list. The FCC is
giving 3.65Ghz licenses for experimental purposes, which you can use to
provide customers with service. However, it may not be a wise business
decision to rely on experimental spectrum, which can go away at any time.

-Matt

Charles Wu wrote:

Hi Matt,

Can you please shed some light on your 3.65 GHz license?

To my knowledge (and we work with the FCC on licensing almost on a
daily
basis) -- 3.65 GHz is not yet legally licensable for commercial common
carrier applications

-Charles

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform


Is there any vendor besides Aperto that has product that will work with
our 3.65Ghz license?

-Matt

Brad Larson wrote:



Jeff, LOL. Be careful who you're listening to. Like I said, there is
allot of total BS out there being spread by certain
people/manufacturer's. There are several waves of certifications
coming. Just because we didn't show up for the first wave doesn't mean we don't have a product. When the others get caught up Alvarion will be
there for the real test phases. Brad

http://www.techworld.com/mobility/features/index.cfm?featureID=2021
http://www.alvarion-usa.com/presscenter/pressreleases/2109/
http://www.alvarion-usa.com/presscenter/pressreleases/




-----Original Message-----
From: jeffrey thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:50 PM
To: WISPA General List; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform



3.5 / 2.5 / 5.8

Alvarion I believe from what I heard was waiting for the QOS revision
to be agreed on.

-

Jeff


On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:34:42 -0800 , "Brad Larson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:




Jeff, In what Frequency? There is allot of BS out there in the first wave of testing for those that have yet to get a product to market. We
can discuss
if you would like? Brad



-----Original Message-----
From: jeffrey thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:29 PM
To: WISPA General List; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform


The only product on the market today that will have backwards
compatibility to wimax where a cpe can talk to a wimax base station is
Aperto. Additionally,
Alvarion will not be one of the first round products certified for
wimax,
Airspan and Aperto however, will be.

-

Jeff



On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:22:30 -0600, "John Scrivner"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:




Is there a firmware upgrade path for WiMAX through the VL product
line
or is it a hardware change? Feel free to have someone contact me offlist








for pricing information. I have a need for a PtMP system with more
capacity than I have now with my current system. I do not know of
many systems that meet the specs you list here and I already know
many people








are quite fond of the product.

Maybe this time the price won't drive me away as has been the case
in the past. Please do not take that as a slam. It is not. I know
the quality is there and it is a matter of economics for me only
that has ever kept me away from Alvarion products. You guys build
good stuff and in some markets the price is easily recovered through
ROI. Thanks, Scriv



Brad Larson wrote:





John, Typically 4 sector base stations are built with either 5.3 or a licensed link as backhaul. With BreezeAccess VL, true data sector performance is 28 meg's in a 20 Mhz channel and half that in 10 Mhz




Next




firmware release is going to mid 30's in a 20 Mhz channel (again
true




data




rates). I know of one sector that has 200 sub's attached although
most sectors have less than 100. This customer looked at most
manufacturer's




gear




and concluded Alvarion had the management feature sets, ease of
batch processing for firmware uploads, obstructed NLOS for their
application,




and




a host of other likes including Alvarion's support infrastructure.

To be honest I don't think we have many Alvarion Operators that




subscribe




here but that doesn't mean there aren't a crap load of them out
there




which




should be obviuos to everyone. Typically our Operators use Alvarion




support




Application Engineers and Alvarion web servers such as Mike Cowan's
at




ACC




when needed.

This could end up being a long dialog about the differences in




operators,




products, and ROI models but I won't go there. Brad









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