Not so sure it's that simple. I have 2 separate setups that I'm seeing this
problem with so I doubt it's 4 feed horns or radios gone bad at the same
time. We're in the UK and unfortunately the RadioWaves support isn't quite
as good here as it obviously is over there but I'll give em a go.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: 18 January 2006 13:07
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radios on Single antenna

Paul,

You may have a bad feed horn or you may have a bad radio.  I would 
consider both before jumping off a bridge here..

Tell Radiowaves about your issue and see if you can send the feedhorns 
back for testing. They come right out and may be a quick test to see 
whats up.

-B-




Paul Hendry wrote:

>Bob, I hear what you're saying and have been through the figures a few
times
>and even tried turning the power of the radio cards down to 1dB output
>(still unable to run both links simultaneously) but this doesn't explain
why
>others are able to use the same radio cards with similar antennas with
>little to no problems.
>
>Charles, unfortunately Canopy isn't a financially viable solution at
>present. I have a rough idea of these 2 terms but I'll research them a
>little deeper to see if they shed some light. Anything else that may help
on
>my quest?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
>Sent: 18 January 2006 00:25
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radios on Single antenna
>
>Ahhhhh......Lets do some math.......
>
>Lets say the radio has a +20 dB output.  For this example there is no 
>line loss.  The antenna is rated at 30dB x-pole isolation.  Here we go...
>
>+20 dB
>-30dB xpole
>=
>-10 dB receive level. 
>
>In my book that is high enough to kill any link of the same freq on the 
>opposite polarity....No???
>
>Add to that a radio that needs to Rx and Tx on and off and you should 
>have receiver blocking....... 
>
>-B-
>
>
>
>
>Matt Liotta wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Depending on various factors, you should see at least 15db of 
>>attenuation between polarizations on a dual-pol antenna. 
>>Theoretically, you should see 20db. In any case, 15db is enough 
>>attenuation even on the same channel to operate two links reliably.
>>
>>-Matt
>>
>>Jason Wallace wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>List,
>>>
>>>When antennas are separated by normal distances, they can only "see" 
>>>each other electromagnetically (ie, radio waves).  However, when they 
>>>are close they will experience capacitive and inductive coupling.  
>>>Dual pol antennas work fine when only receiving (as in those large 
>>>satellite dishes from the 80's that used 90° pol changes between 
>>>adjacent channels).  I think you will always have trouble overloading 
>>>the receiver when transmitting with this setup.
>>>      
>>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>


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