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Mark,
Don't forget an arguement to support your
position, "less components to fail.".
However, not creating a clear Dmarcation point,
means free support labor. Not gicing end users a device to tinker with, means
they try and tinker with yours, or bother you aimlessly for support.
Its all an issue if you want to manage their home
Net, or have them manage their home NET, and what the custoemr things of that.
Its not wronfeither way. I personally insist on keeping the client out of
my gear, and I'm clear on what gear is mine. I'll give them the
Linksys, and I'll even let them set it up, but its there responsibility to pay
me to manage and support it, if I feel its necessary. It does not box me
into a possition of providing free support. But optionally I can, and create
value, if it doesn't get out of hand.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless
Broadband
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Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:36
PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes
history
I hate those routers, really. I find thier
configuration mechanisms frustrating or annoying. Some are just
downright almost unworkable.
Since my CPE does full routing / NAT firewalling,
etc... I still love it. That's an extra box I don't
ahve to buy and whatnot.
And yes, I understand you CAN use
these. I love the reliability and s tability of my staros
boxes. I think in the last 12 months I've had 1 or 2 WRAP based CPE
need rebooted or restarted. Having the exact same thing at every
site is nice :) It would take me a while to develop confidence in
one of those consumer level routers.
North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence
to: mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to: purchasing at
neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO
WIRES!
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:26
PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes
history
We have been installing Linksys / Dlink / Belkin routers at
every install for almost 4 years. Customers get an "internal" wireless, we
help protect them by having a firewall, and we then have a device we can
monitor (with ping) to check their
connection.
Travis
Microserv
Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
Man if I only had a $75 CPE, I could... Be dreaming? Sorry, Tom, I had to
do that.
It's great to see a decent product hit the $150 level.
It's not going to "lure" me away from my staros yet. It may, however, end
up being deployed if the AP turns out to be affordable for those smaller
cells. If I can put up a 2-4 mile across cell (using omni, not sector) and
sell 5Mbit connections to 10 to 20 people per cell... It might be less
costly than my star-os system. I am not yet prepared to give up on routing
at the cpe end for normal installs.
North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:35 PM
Subject: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes history
I'm not sure if everyone really truly realizes what has just happened.
It took an hour or two for it to really sink in, I think I must have been
in
shock.
Last year when Betas were send out, they asked, how many we wanted to buy,
before they shipped.
This year, they just sent them, and I wasn't told the price.
Was it sorta like a restaurant with no prices on the menu?
Send us the gear to see how nice it is, and then tell us the big price tag
after we realized the advantages?
Think about it, Like a Fox, but will be able to do up to 30 mbps, cross
platform supported!
They jsut released a Fox-D2 for the low price point model. The M5580 was
likely going to have a bigger price tag, if I guessed.
What was it going to be, $300, $400, $500? When I heard $150 today, I
able
shxt myself. I was blown away. I never expected it.
I remember three years ago, when everyone was talking about the 2 year ROI
on equipment, wishing that if they only had a $500 CPE! And one came,
thanks
Trango. And then some people started getting greety and pushing the
limits,
and said "If we only had a $300 CPE". And sure enough it came. Thanks
Trango. (Also a few others like Tranzeo releasing 2.4Ghz for under $150).
Some jerks actually had the nerve to then say, "if I only had a $150
CPE!".
It just plain got rediculously funny at that point. Then Like Emeral would
say "BAM!" Trango did it agin, "$150!!!!". This is truly a defining
moment
in history. No NOT for a commodity WIFI product, not for a 2.4Ghz
product.
But for a Commercial Robust WISP product! Equivellent to what we easilly
paid $500 for, less than a year ago.
I was lucky to share an experience this past October at a Trango meeting.
After the reception, some of us stuck around to hang out. We were all
dreaming about what we needed, to be more successful and sell more radios.
Then out of nowhere "Z" gets all serious and asks "What If...we had a $200
CPE?" We respond, "how much quantity would that take? 5000, 10,000?"
Instantly, Travis is like, "at that price I'd commit to 5000, 1000 at a
time." Then I was like, "I'd take 500". Etc, etc. Then we all realized we
were dreaming and drinking way to much wine, and called it a night. CPEs
were still $400 at that time, ya know. God what a poker face! I thought Z
was kidding! And the irony in it all, quantity 10,000 is not required!
Just
qty 30! And its only $150, not $200! I just don't know what to say.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm not going to be in the tech room
tommorrow. I'm going to be in the marketing room, making new materials,
and
crunching numbers. Our business plan may have just changed overnight,
with
this recent Press release. Think about the potential! The residential
market is going to be broken wide open, with this pricing. If I didn't
have
a box of M5580s sitting on my desk, I'd ask somebody to pinch me, to make
sure I wasn't dreaming.
Trango... Thanks!
PS. PLEASE, NOBODY SAY, " If I only had a CPE for $75", I don't think my
heart could take the results.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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