Lonnie is famous for hijacking threads
Regardless of the original thread topic, I'd argue that...
The goal is to find a manufacturer that can deliver what we need, the
complete solution, at the price we need. If someone can do that, there is
not much more to find out, in my mind. Its not about who is better, its who
can deliver, because WISPs are starving for solutions. When I think about
it, until just recently, I have been using the same product that I selected
as best for me 5 years ago and there are two reasons for it. 1) Loyalty to
vendor and 2) there is lots of advancement, but not enough of a value to
justify change. A great OS does nothing if it can;t run on adequate
hardware, and adequate hardware can't do much without adequate software.
I am exstatic to hear about what Lonnie has accomplished with his new War/V3
solution. To my recognition, he is the first to deliver a complete low cost
solution to meet todays ISP's backhaul needs. (that means he's listening to
WISPs). It delivers low cost, total link w/ antennas, radios, cases, etc,
under $1000, it allows us to transparently bridge without compromising MTU
delivery, and it will pass 35 mbps, adeqaute speed for backhauling a 6 six
sector cell site. First, a product must meet the need of the solution.
Every other component of the OS's I feel are almost pointless, or just value
add to help tip the scale. A 12-20 mbps solution is just not enough.
I'm not saying there are not other vendors with adeqaute solutions, nor that
the other products don't have valueable features for other solutions. But
War/V3 might have been the first to deliver all three needs in a PTP (also
possibly PtMP sectors, but thats a different discussion with different
things to compare.). For that recognition is due, and I commend him.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
----- Original Message -----
From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:37 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:32 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2
11MByte/sec as in approx 88Mbps? Sounds about like NStreme Turbo (40MHz
channel) or Alvarion B100 (40MHz channel).
Considering this thread was originally about the RB532 and its
shortcomings, has anyone tried loading MikroTik OS onto the StarOS
533MHz hardware?
*****Lonnie is famous for hijacking threads to promote his products. We
shouldn't punish him for it because after all, he is canadian ! :)~
JohnnyO
Brad
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:25 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2
Lonnie,
Wow, that was fast. Great New!
Testing starts this week.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2
Tom,
The new V3 release has been posted and you can set MTU to very high
values if your cards support jumbo frames. Our WAR board, with its
very advanced Intel Ethernet can do 16K for the MTU. Most other cards
have limits in the 2K to 4K range.
We also have released the first x86 PC Architecture version and the
updated x86 WRAP version. They have the same features as the WAR
version.
I'm not sure if we mentioned it but the x86 version has a free mode
that is no longer a 24 hour trial. It saves settings and everything
works, except of course the advanced features that we use to add
value. You can use it for fairly advance routing (quagga has ospf and
rip) for free.
We'll require a paid license for wireless, policy or source routing,
bandwidth control and our firewall scripting. We are pretty sure that
more than 11 MBytes/sec in Turbo mode on a power machine will meet
with approval. Device bonding will be coming fairly soon and it will
allow simple hdx bonding, fdx bonding and failover bonding.
We use the Linux 2.6 kernel and we have been able to get this image to
well under 8 MB and average ram use on bootup is about 16 MB. It took
a long time to get here and we have to thank everybody for being
patient. Some of you wrote us off and figured that V3 would never
reach the light of day, so I hope you take a look at what this new
release can do.
Lonnie
On 8/15/06, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Lonnie,
When you get that feature solved / added, please let me know, or make
a public announcement. If you let me know, I'll do a bunch of talk
for you persoanlly, to promote
the feature.
Thanks.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2
> It will just be easier to support an insane MTU size so that people
> can go and do whatever they want. I can imagine people doing some
> vlan in vlan and then running the whole works over a tunnel, and
> each one adds tags and headers to the actual 1500 byte payload.
>
> Lonnie
>
> On 8/14/06, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Lonnie,
>>
>> I just wrote to you off list, before seeing your onlist response.
>>
>> >V3 has support for a fully transparent
>> > client bridge when it talks to an appropriately configured V3 AP
>> >system.
>>
>> That is good news!
>>
>> > License Fee after 1 year.
>>
>> The policy you explained, is fair and reasonable.
>>
>> > We are currently working on a custom MTU size interface for
>> > every device to be able to handle whatever you want for MTU
>> > size.
>>
>> Great. To be more clear... Its easy for people (like me) to get
>> confused
>> between IP versus Ethernet headers. In our VLAN applications, its
the
>> Ethernet packet that needs to be supported above 1500bytes (for
>> addition
>> of
>> VLAN to Ethernet header), we'd rarely ever need to increase IP
packet
>> MTU
>> above 1500 MTU. (although I see applications for IPSEC if larger
MTU
>> allowed
>> or possibly for passing MPLS).
>>
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>
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