This is an issue which needs further study for sure. The sky is not falling I do not believe. Taking action to force complete neutrality on all net traffic is not in the best interest of a commercial ISP who has to make some tough decisions when looking at issues like peer to peer traffic and such. I am not interested in forcing myself to adhere to an "all bits are created equal" philosophy unless there are provisions that allow me to filter viruses, spam, limit excessive abusive traffic, etc. I think everyone needs to study the issue fully and then start thinking about how best to proceed. In the meantime we need to get a feel for what the possibility is of us all getting shafted at peering locations. I see this as the biggest threat to what we do as an industry. If we have to start paying prices like the old days or higher for bandwidth then this could get ugly real fast.

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

I watched it too. Very nicely done. I'm not sure that I like the fact that there were no telcos there. I've got mixed emotions about this one. On the one hand, I don't like government over regulation. It's true that there isn't a problem today. It's also true that the telcos aren't to be trusted. I think I lean more to letting the market take care of it's self till we KNOW of a problem or an impending one. Someone else really needs to take the lead on this though. I fail to see any concrete reasons to be all worked up about anything other than the idea that all should be able to buy anything they can afford. The argument that some will have faster pipes than others rings hollow to me because the internet is already like that. The more you pay, the faster you can go. Gee, what a concept. Marlon
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    Thanks John, I watched the program.  Very good, How are we working
    toward this goal?  And Marlon, what should I be doing to help?
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