New.. www.highgainantennas.com.  These are 2.4 though.  You an do a 900 for
what, a bit over 300.  We charge 350 to make sure we are in the green.

Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.2kwireless.com
 
2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network
consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking,
security, and Mikrotik routers.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chris Cooper
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 3:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients

Not sure I follow you Dennis- are you purchasing these new for this price or
is this what you are valuing them at takeover?

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 1:25 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients


We are picking up 2.4 gig CPE/Routers, QOS, NAT, and DHCP is all built into
the CPE, for what, 99 bucks!   150 something including a 19db antenna, where
the 99 is a 12 db antenna.  BTW, both are B/G and 400mw output.  Good for
here in MO with our dang HILLS!

Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.2kwireless.com

2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network
consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking,
security, and Mikrotik routers.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 12:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients

You missed the thread though Blair. Our CPEs are as low as $245 complete
and only $285 for very low volume (25 a quarter). We have AUs now also
for about $2500 MSRP (list price). And we can filter and control packets
without a router, including broadcast packet rate limiting.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients

Why provide routers?   To improve the isolation of the user from the
network. To filter and control packets at the customer end before they
clog up my wireless bandwidth.  We run private IP space on our wireless
network for the same reasons.

We provide anti-virus and anti-spyware software for the same reasons.

I'd love to be able to put up $500 cpe's and $5000 AP's  But in my area,

that would price me out of the market.



We Patrick Leary wrote:

>Why do you have to have the router? The DSL and cable guys don't
provide
>routers (not without extra fees). I provide my own in my home. At work
>we have our own router.
>
>VL also can do VLAN, all the way to QinQ 802.3ad VLANs. It does 802.1q.
>It does layer 2 802.1p. Layer 3 prioritization with IP TOS (RFC791) and
>DSCP (RFC2474). And layer 4 with UDP/TCP port range. And we can deliver
>real VoIP QoS with a MOS of 4.0 and better using our proprietary WLP
>(wireless link prioritization) protocol. (And that's not marketing
goop,
>it's been tested by a tier 1 operator and it blew them away.)
>
>Plus, in the end the thing that I admit really gets me is that some of
>these products simply are not legal at all and are illegally shipped in
>from overseas. If we just blatantly flauted the laws we could save tons
>in R&D and legal too. It has always been disappointing that some WISPs
>simply don't care about that. Especially when at the same time the same
>WISP might complain that another WISP is over driving a system.
>
>Patrick Leary
>AVP WISP Markets
>Alvarion, Inc.
>o: 650.314.2628
>c: 760.580.0080
>Vonage: 650.641.1243
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Butch Evans
>Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:24 PM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients
>
>On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Patrick Leary wrote:
>
>
>
>>reduced truck roll,
>>
>>
>
>Where are you getting this?
>
>I have been in the ISP business longer than MOST people on this
>list.  I have nothing bad to say about Alvarion equipment, but the
>fact is, that to use Alvarion gear in any network I would build, you
>would HAVE to add an addition cost for a router.  SO, we would add
>another $25ish to the cost of your CPE.  At this point, the price is
>exactly the same (or very close).
>
>NOW, let's talk about upsell capability.  With the Alvarion solution
>(including a router), I could upgrade the speed, but that costs how
>much?  I could offer a firewall, vpn, qos or other options, but I'd
>have to change the cost of the router from a $25 router to (at
>least) a $100 router.  If I am able to hit one customer in an area,
>but the others have obscured LOS, I would have to build another AP
>somewhere, where with MT, I could just add an $80 (including
>antenna) upgrade to their router and offer service off that new AP.
>I can offer real options for firewall, vpn, qos from their ethernet
>port all the way to my network edge.  Did I miss anything?  Perhaps
>there are other options that Alvarion has that I missed.
>
>
>
>

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