I place my pigtails on a cookie sheet, stretched to the position I want them to be in, then bake them at about 175F for 30-45 min.

Takes that shape memory right out of them.....

Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

Basically,  we can't get them to stay on the SR9, in a WAR board, because
there's only 2 positions a pigtail will fit, and both are "stressed" due to
the pigtail's attempting to revert to the pre-installed shape (curled up in
a bag...).




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----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grrrr... pigtails


T urns out our low loss u.fl to n-female pigtails with the thicker coax
in
the cold will revert shape and pull themselves off the cramped SR9 / WAR
board combination.
Excellent detail to bring up. Sounds like a fastener/tiedown problem to
me.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:55 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Grrrr... pigtails


Thanksgiving day, my son and I put up a future customer's CPE up in the
woods.  I mean, up in the mountains, log cabin, beyond phone and power.
They have a generator, batteries, solar panels, etc. We did it because
snow
was predicted and already a little bit had fallen.   We got it there,
link
established and was working on aiming the antenna when the laptop ran
out
of
power.   The power plug on the laptop PSU had broken and, well... we
were
dead.

The people got back a few days later, and by then, yes, quite a bit of
snow
had fallen.   When we had the chance to go back and finish ( plug the
power
in inside, hook up thier equipment) we had no signal.

We tried everything we  could think of, short of changing parts, because
we
didn't take any (wasn't our install rig, just a 4x4 so we could get
through
the deep snow), no signal.

Yesterday, after a few days of warm, we drove in ( this time, install
rig,
my '89 Caravan ) digging through some deep snow going in the canyon
between
them and the main road.

Eventually, we changed every part, including the WAR board and SR9, no
signal.   Then, I assembled the WAR we took out and all the parts
changed
out, and standing there, on the ground...  I had a solid link.

Finally, in pitch black dark, I climbed the ladder, had someone provide
some
light, and hooked up the SR9 through another pigtail to the anntenna...
POOF, signal.

Put the original back on...  Poof, signal.  then, none.   Work  the
pigtail
around so it's not tensioned and in line and put it back on... Poof,
signal.

I go inside, log in...and in a minute or so, watch the signal fade to
nothing.

T urns out our low loss u.fl to n-female pigtails with the thicker coax
in
the cold will revert shape and pull themselves off the cramped SR9 / WAR
board combination.

I found one of the crapola thing things I had rejected for 5 ghz use and
put
it in place...  Yeah, 1 or 2 db loss in the piggy, but it stayed on...

Anyone make a low loss pigtail that's flexible even in the cold?   I
tried
two different ones, one pacwireless, one is Roger's, I think.  Neither
could
be convinced to retain a new shape in the cold...



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