Carlos, the Cisco 1242's bridge, but need to be put in a NEMA box to be outdoor 
rated. You can get them for about $500 on the street. Now, before everyone 
jumps on, YES, they are more expensive than Mikrotik and some others, but they 
do bridge well.

JT


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Carlos A. Garcia G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 08:21 AM
>To: 'WISPA General List'
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need opinion
>
>Thank u very much at the list the opinions that you gaved me has help me
>a lot, as far as i could see it is that its better to work with 4 radio 
>bridges, not the las time i did that i use cisco 2.4 1310 bridge i have 
>to say that works very stable, but the solution for 5.8 its the 1400 as 
>far as i remember only one bridge has the cost of 4000 us, that much
>more expensive that i tought so i have checked another products recently
>i checked proxim QuickBridge.11 5054-R, who has used the proxim
>equipments, any one with experience can tell me about it?
>
>Chad Halsted escribió:
>> StarOS has the ability to run a VDS tunnel from any two StarOS V3
>> devices.  That will enable you to run a 128 or 256 bit AES encrypted
>> tunnel.  If memory serves me correctly, Lonnie is able to get 15mbps
>> or more out of that type of setup?
>>
>> If you're worried about interference, try x2 or x4 cloaking on the
>> 5GHz bands.
>>
>> I'm getting ready to install a dedicated T1 replacement, the customer
>> was worried about security.  The ability to encrypt with AES won them
>> over.
>>
>> I should have said 3 WAR boards, not RADIOS, sorry about the
>> confusion.  The amount of radios you use is up to you, but you would
>> want atleast 4 radio cards for what you're trying to do.
>>
>>
>> On 12/12/06, Carlos A. Garcia G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Ok, following your recomendations in order to set up the link without
>>> using more than 3 radios what you recommend its to use th WAR from
>>> Staros i have a wireless repeaters using cisco so the extra radios for
>>> customers are not necesary (sorry my english) if i use this
>>>
>>> NOC war with one antenna and radio at 5.8GHz to connect with the middle
>>> POP war dual 2 radios 2 antennas at 5.8GHz and finally the customer
>>> POP war
>>> and what about security the guy ask me to doit secure meaning not easy
>>> for the folks. (he knows total security its an utopia a Guajiro dream!!)
>>>
>>> Lonnie Nunweiler escribió:
>>> > My recommendation is to have a dual WAR board at the main POP.  Use a
>>> > 5 GHz antenna and radio to connect tot the middle repeater and have a
>>> > 2.4 GHz with an omni at the main just to be able to connect any local
>>> > customers.  The biggest investment is the CPU board and time to
>>> > install, and an extra radio and 15 dB omni is cheap.  Even a couple of
>>> > subscribers will make it pay.
>>> >
>>> > At the middle repeater I would use a dual WAR with 5 GHz radios to
>>> > point to main and the remote end.  If you want some local service at
>>> > that repeater then use a 4 port WAR and throw a 2.4 GHz and 900 MHz
>>> > card in it or both 2.4 GHz or 900 MHz.  Your choice.
>>> >
>>> > The remote end is a copy of the main end with a dual WAR and 5 GHz
>>> > input and a 2.4 GHz to an omni for local use.
>>> >
>>> > This arrangement will get you 20 to 30 mbps of sustained throughput as
>>> > long as the middle repeater is no farther than 30 miles from either
>>> > end.  You'll also have a couple of revenue generating AP units at each
>>> > end and potentially the middle.
>>> >
>>> > Lonnie
>>> >
>>> > On 12/12/06, Carlos A. Garcia G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >> I have just recived an answer from chad saying that starOS its a good
>>> >> choice, thanks chad ill check it, for your question yes i w'd like to
>>> >> play, i have never deployed my routers, but i really would like
>>> to, so
>>> >> im like a newbie compared to the people in this list but im hungry to
>>> >> learn the how to, thanks to everybody, this is an amazing list.
>>> >>
>>> >> Mario Pommier escribió:
>>> >> > Carlos,
>>> >> >    that's your first item, your line of thinking seems accurate:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >    Cisco, Proxim, Trango, Alvarion, StarOS, Mikrotik -- what
>>> equipment
>>> >> > will you choose and what is the advantage/disadvantage of each.
>>> >> >    Maybe your first perspective is: do you want to go with a
>>> >> > "finished, packaged" product, or do you want to be able to "play
>>> more
>>> >> > with the tools and toys" out there?
>>> >> >    The type of computer person you are may be a good guide: do you
>>> >> > deploy your own Unix/Linux based routers or do you buy Cisco
>>> finished
>>> >> > products?
>>> >> >    Hope that helps some.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Mario
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Carlos A. Garcia G wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Thank u very much, but the question it is, i do not know many
>>> >> >> equipments, i have only work with cisco aironet, the last time 
>>> i do
>>> >> >> something similar and get the cisco 1300 series the problem it is
>>> >> >> that in order that this work i have to use 4 radios
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>         1300<-->[1300 -ethernet-1300]<-->1300
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> and what i need it is to know for example: the proxim LMG22
>>> work in
>>> >> >> 5.8 and can be used as:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>       LMG22<-->LMG22<-->LMG22
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> im currently looking with cisco, proxym, trango, mikrotik but i
>>> dont
>>> >> >> get the answer that im looking for.
>>> >> >> Mike Brownson escribió:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> Carlos,
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> It all depends on how big a hill and what speed you need.
>>> There is
>>> >> >>> some PtP equipment (Motorola PtP, formerly Orthogon) that can 
>>> talk
>>> >> >>> over the hill in one link if the hill is not too big or the
>>> distance
>>> >> >>> is not too long.  Other option is to put another repeater in
>>> >> >>> between.  But that means another radio site.  If you want to
>>> send me
>>> >> >>> latitude and longitude of both sites I can see if the one
>>> radio link
>>> >> >>> will work.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Mike B
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Carlos A. Garcia G wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> Hi i have a problem i need to establish a wireless link
>>> betwen my
>>> >> >>>> ofice and another ofice there are a hill betwen so what
>>> equipment
>>> >> >>>> or vendors do i have to contact: look!
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> NOC <-->> POP <-->> OFFICE
>>> >> >>>> ????
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
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