I think it would be a good idea to at least see if they'd have any interest.

Marlon
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www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:28 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly


If WISPA is serious about this someone hit me off list and I'll investigate
the internal EL contacts to start any negotiations.



Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>


-----Original Message-----
From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly


Now for the next phase that should happen.

EL should come to WISPA and work a deal with wisps nationwide.  WE provide
access to them on OUR networks.  Then EL stops loosing dialup customers in
Ephrata and Moses Lake.  But no need to spend the 2 million :-)

Hmmm, maybe I'm still ahead of the game after all?  grin
marlon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:04 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly


Yep- you are correct, sir- I have it from a very reliable source.

* EL locates on City (or whatever utility it is) poles.
* They pledge that they will allow other ISPs to wheel their service over
the network (many spare SSIDs are available)
* They foot the bill for the install (I'd say 2 million for a small city-
just estimating)
* They use gear that meshes and has intelligence so that it can optimize
and
work around interference and congestion.
* They co-produce with the city an event for the "unveiling" or "wire
cutting" and invite residents and businesses to sign up and give it a free
try.
* Dialup customers (hopefully) migrate to the new broadband network. Some
mobile users will use the network for whatever it is that mobile users do. * Police, Fire, Building Inspections, etc use the free accounts (if any
were negotiated) and maybe additional accounts are purchased.
* POSSIBLY Google or someone else rides the network subsidizing a free
tier
of service (300 kb/s in San Francisco)
* And (if the recent posting about Vonage is correct)- EL allows other
carriers to provide service via EL's infrastructure for a set fee.
  These carriers could be  AOL, DirecTV internet, Odessa Office, OneRing
or
even "Joes Best Little Internet Provider In Texas".

It looks like it could be a win-win situation and a resource for EL, the
City, the residents and local businesses, AND the ISPs who choose to use
access to it as a means to enter the market in that town. Imagine Marlon
being able to branch out into San Francisco, New Orleans, Philadelphia,
Anaheim and any other markets available just by inking a deal with EL.

I think Municipal WiFi's definition is evolving. It doesn't have to be
*owned or funded* by a municipality, it just has to cover the
municipality.

So far, I think Marlon's described network may fit the description,
assuming
it has adequate on-street coverage.
Notice I have said "on-street", not in-building. Getting it into the
building is another project, and there are at least 2 ways to do that.



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:39 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly

<snip>

I learned today that I already have a few municipal networks myself! Much
like the Earthlink/SanFran network will be.

Privately funded, open to competitors, uses city facilites, city gets free
services, covers 100% of the community.  Hmmm, sounds like what I've been
doing here for half a decade now!

Ralph, stick up for me here....  grin

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