Inline....
Patrick Leary wrote:
How many of you operate in farm country? You got any problem with
illegal produce flooding your market? I bet your community might have
something to say about that.
I am rural. What is illegal produce? If I grew it in my backyard, is
it illegal?
Are you asking if those of us who have the ethics to make the required
investments to operate legally in this country (and in every country we
operate in) want protection from those who are illegal? Why we have some
gall, don't we?
No. What we want it the REMOVAL of worthless rules for the sake of
rules. The removal of protecionist regulations that favor large
established companies at the expense of the small fry.
Listen, we sell into literally over 150 countries. We spend massive
amounts each year to be compliant with the regulations of each country.
Compliance often requires specific hardware or software changes, not
merely certification.
That is the cost of doing business, for you. Not my problem.
Do I want respect and protection from those who by
intentionally ignore the rules are able to sell at lower prices? You
darned sure bet I do and I have more than an expectation of such -- I
have a right.
In your world a competitive operator should be able to get space on your
tower for free,
Get real. Private property.
or at least erect one without having to go through the
local bureaucratic hurdles.
Again, private property. Zoning laws are a completely different subject
and you know it. But, since you asked, if the tower, even if it falls,
will remain on his/her property, no one else should be able to say
anything about it.
In your world anyone should be able drive
anything on the freeway, and if you get hurt, too damned bad.
There is a difference between placing someone else life at risk with an
unsafe vehicle on the public road and using an uncertified radio
transmitter that otherwise complies with the requirements.
Forbes, what you are advocating is called relativism. Relativism is an
insidious problem that grows roots and proliferates if not brought under
control.
Or maybe you only care about rules that when violated damage you? Such
an attitude is dangerous and selfish.
I can't and don't speak for Forbes. The requirements, as now set, make
the innovation that originally helped create this industry nearly
impossible to do for the small guys.
I can't help but believe that this is what the big guys want.
Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
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Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 11:14 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Re: Dealing with bad players (was SPAM ?...)
Amen to that, it's called 'Vendor Protectionism'. I remember when the
companies doing low voltage pre-wiring in buildings lobbied to make only
certified contractors be able to do Cat5/6 work in housing and an
Apprentice Program was required. They knew full well that if another
company wanted to go into the wiring business, like a WISP who wants to
wire the rest of their house, they would not be able to because no
competitor would allow my employee to get Apprentice training from them
to compete against them.
It's using the law to protect your income and the most ridiculous use of
the law. I agree that if there is good power usage and the same
interference as caused by certified gear, leave them alone. WISPA is a
lobbying group for a easier access to frequencies and a group that
educates each other as to the best methods and equipment. As soon as we
become an exclusive trade group that tries to force people who don't
agree with us out we have lost our mission and become just another
scared industry that tries to hide behind the law instead of helping
people get Internet where they couldn't before. I battle competition by
being better at marketing and service not by some law or exclusive club;
it's called the free market place with minimum government interference.
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: Dealing with bad players (was SPAM ?...)
I've been sitting back watching this debate/holy war for a day or so now
and decided to throw my $.02 in....
I'd bet that the vast majority of 'bad operators' are only 'bad' due to
lack of certification.
Most do not run over power limits. Most do not operate outside the UL
bands.
If you want to help reduce over-powered or out of band operation, I'm
with you.
But, if it turns into a witch hunt for those who, other than
certification, operate within the part 15 rules, count me out. Too many
'rules for the sake of rules' already.
This reminds me of the 'professional installer' debate from about 4-5
years ago. Much ado about nothing.
PS Every FCC enforcement official I have met has said the same basic
thing.... If your power is legal, and you are operating in the UL
bands, we have better things to do than come check to see if you have
the right stickers on your equipment.
This is not to say they can't. It is to say this is the way things work
in the real world.
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Blair Davis
AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240
West Michigan Wireless ISP
269-686-8648
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