In general we only limit the connections for residential and the lowest
end business packages- The higher end packages have no limits although
we will usually restrict peer to peer unless the business customers asks
us not too..

This has proved to be a very effective tool for those residential
customers who set up a office at home/barn and then start hiring people.
They can start with a residential package but will need to upgrade if
they want to have employees on the connection. It also allows us to
handle the "1 man" offices in a commercial building- We will sometimes
allow a residential package in that case and don't have to worry they
will share it with others.

Marty

__________________________________________

Marty Dougherty

CEO

Roadstar Internet Inc

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

703-623-4542 (Cell)

703-554-6620 (office)


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 3:03 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing

Marty,

>consider limiting the number of simultaneous connections-

Excellent idea, for residential. Have you played with that practice for 
Business subscribers?
If so, what works appropriatly for business?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marty Dougherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing


> You could also consider limiting the number of simultaneous
connections-
> We limit our residential plans to 75 (Family basic) and 100 (family
> Power) simultaneous connections. If they share the connections or have
> many computers they will max out real quick. The numbers have been
> tested (75 and 100) over the past few years and cover 99% of our
> residential user's just fine.
>
> This also helps with peer to peer traffic as well.
>
> We use Allot bandwidth managers but most of the standards traffic
> managers can do it.
>
> Marty
>
> __________________________________________
>
> Marty Dougherty
>
> CEO
>
> Roadstar Internet Inc
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> 703-623-4542 (Cell)
>
> 703-554-6620 (office)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:03 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing
>
> Yes, but how do you explain what 5G/month is to the average sub??
> They worry because they don't see this with the 'big boys' that
> advertize & don't sevre their area.  Do you find it takes alot more
> selling/education for each sub?
>
> On 2/17/07, Mac Dearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I tell my residential subs that we don't care if they have a hundred
> PCs. We
>> don't have a cap on bandwidth that is available, but we do tell them
> that
>> with each subscription is included 5gigs of data transfer per month.
> We sale
>> bandwidth for a living and it is metered just like electricity and
> water.
>> Help yourself to all you want, but it is not a free for all or a
> buffet
>> where you can eat all you want for the low low price of $8.99.
>>
>> I realize I will probably get a scalding rebuke over my 5gigs, but I
> don't
>> have copper in the ground or FTTH to allow a Hogs feast on my
> bandwidth. I
>> run a very successful WIRELESS ISP and the BH pipes and APs are all
> limited
>> in the amount of data they can carry. That is not my fault, but it is
> my
>> problem and that is how I deal with it! I never have a complaint and
I
> sell
>> a fantastic service.
>>
>> Mac Dearman
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
>> Behalf Of Mark Nash
>> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 12:08 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing
>>
>> We just tell them that the fact that they have more computers will
>> inevitably increase the expected bandwidth usage.  We're flexible on
> it.
>> Essentially, if we have a customer that is clearly a business setup,
> we
>> charge more.  If it is an ultra-geek setup, we'll charge it.  If it's
> a mom
>> & pop shop that just so happens to go over the threshold, we don't
> worry
>> about it.
>>
>> Mark Nash
>> Network Engineer
>> UnwiredOnline.Net
>> 350 Holly Street
>> Junction City, OR 97448
>> http://www.uwol.net
>> 541-998-5555
>> 541-998-5599 fax
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "rabbtux rabbtux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 3:45 AM
>> Subject: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing
>>
>>
>> >I noticed that many WISPs have plans based on how many customer
>> > computers are hooked up to the customer's service.  How does that
>> > work?  Your installer counts computers initially, but then what?
>> >
>> > I have several power users with 5-10 computers and would like to
> move
>> > them to another plan, but need to understand how others do it.
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