This is certainly a good scenario and technically better. I think Mac
was looking for a scenario that was certainly workable within the
abilities of the product, but also relatively inexpensive. The ideal
solution would be the dedicated backhaul and then using the AU for all
the remotes and activating the FIPS 197 feature security that Scriv was
hinting about.

Patrick
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 7:18 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ALVARION VL 4.0 AP

I can tell you what I would do. I would set an AU on your tower pointing

toward the hub location for your hospital. I would put a 120 degree 
sector on that one. Put a SU at the hospital hub location to receive the

10 megabit feed for the hospital campus. Now you have funded the build 
of an Alvarion VL sector from your tower to feed any future customers 
within that 120 degree span.

Next a second AU would go at the hospital hub location to feed the other

5 locations around the hospital campus. I would enable the higher-end 
security on this AU. With this you can develop a secure cloud around the

hospital which would meet the requirements of HIPAA. Once you get that 
done you should get that hospital IT guy there to write you up a 
testimonial about how nice it is to have a  robust wireless broadband 
deployment serving their needs around their hospital campus securely and

cost effectively. Then guys like me can use that testimonial to break 
the mentality I have around me where none of the medical community will 
trust wireless for their networking needs. Let us know how you proceed
Mac.
Scriv


Mac Dearman wrote:

>Gino,
>
> I agree 100% with that comment and I haven't ruled out doing a PTP to
>deliver the bandwidth. I am looking at all my angles :-)
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mac Dearman
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Gino Villarini
>Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:36 PM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: RE: [WISPA] ALVARION VL 4.0 AP
>
>Best method would be a PTP shot to the tower for the 10 megs and the
>Alvarion AU feeding the bldgs.
>
>Gino A. Villarini
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of George Rogato
>Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 10:30 PM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] ALVARION VL 4.0 AP
>
>Right.
>
>Wonder if he realizes the hit he will take doing it this way.
>
>George
>
>Gino Villarini wrote:
>  
>
>>Exactly my point
>>
>>Gino A. Villarini
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>    
>>
>On
>  
>
>>Behalf Of George Rogato
>>Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 9:31 PM
>>To: WISPA General List
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] ALVARION VL 4.0 AP
>>
>>One thing I am wondering about, and it's not an Alvarion specific 
>>question or concern is, isn't it true that when you use a subscriber 
>>unit as your backhaul on a PtMP set up like you are suggesting, that
>>    
>>
>the
>  
>
>>through put is halved or somewhat diminished?
>>
>>Thought this was a long standing rule of thumb.
>>
>>George
>>
>>Mac Dearman wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Patrick,
>>>
>>>Thanks for that info - I appreciate it much.
>>>
>>>What I am trying to accomplish is (kill a bunch of birds with one
>>>      
>>>
>>stone)
>>
>>    
>>
>>>connect these 5 remote locations via wireless to the hospital (AU
>>>      
>>>
>>located
>>
>>    
>>
>>>here) and then use the 6th SU on my tower (1 mile LOS) to provide
>>>      
>>>
>>10mbps of
>>
>>    
>>
>>>dedicated bandwidth to the hospital.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Mac Dearman
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>      
>>>
>>On
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Behalf Of Patrick Leary
>>>Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:42 AM
>>>To: WISPA General List
>>>Subject: RE: [WISPA] ALVARION VL 4.0 AP
>>>
>>>Mac,
>>>I understand you spoke to Les today. Made me smile for sure. Thanks
>>>      
>>>
>>also
>>
>>    
>>
>>>for sharing the story about Michael Eck helping during Karina. He is
a
>>>humble guy and I've never heard him mention it.
>>>
>>>The BreezeACCESS VL can certainly do what you want there. An AU,
>>>especially at those ranges should be able to provide the full
capacity
>>>of just over 30mbps (net ftp). So you could provide 6 connections
>>>      
>>>
>>close
>>
>>    
>>
>>>range of 10mbps a piece with an oversubscription ratio of only about
>>>2:1. Assume that a typical over subscription for high end commercial
>>>customers is about 4 or 5 to 1, you should be sitting pretty. 
>>>
>>>I am not clear about your tower need. Are you asking if you can
>>>dedidcate 10mbps to a tower, which then would have that capacity used
>>>      
>>>
>>to
>>
>>    
>>
>>>feed in to 802.11 APs that feed other clients?
>>>
>>>1. How far is that tower?
>>>2. You should be able to dedicate 10mbps to the tower, leaving 20mbps
>>>      
>>>
>>to
>>
>>    
>>
>>>serve the 6 hospital customers with an oversubscription ratio that
>>>      
>>>
>>would
>>
>>    
>>
>>>still be nice and low.
>>>
>>>Do have Mike Cowan confirm, as John advises.
>>>
>>>Patrick Leary
>>>AVP WISP Markets
>>>Alvarion, Inc.
>>>o: 650.314.2628
>>>c: 760.580.0080
>>>Vonage: 650.641.1243
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>      
>>>
>>On
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Behalf Of Mac Dearman
>>>Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:58 AM
>>>To: 'WISPA General List'
>>>Subject: RE: [WISPA] ALVARION VL 4.0 AP
>>>
>>>
>>>Someone give me a hand here please.
>>>
>>>I have a contract to deliver 10Mbps dedicated bandwidth to a hospital
>>>      
>>>
>>as
>>
>>    
>>
>>>well as building them a leased wireless network for the hospital to 6
>>>off
>>>site buildings. All of these buildings (but 1) are with in "rock
>>>throwing"
>>>distance of the Hospital. I am looking at the Alvarion VL 4.0 AP to
do
>>>the
>>>wireless connections. 
>>>
>>>Here is my dilemma since I am very limited in VL knowledge:
>>>1. Will I be able to not only connect these 6 out lying buildings,
but
>>>also
>>>place one of the SU's on my tower to provide them with the 10Mbps
>>>dedicated
>>>BW? 
>>>Or will I need to do a PTP?
>>>
>>>2. I believe the AP is only possible of 10Mbps total???
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Mac Dearman
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
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