I understand how you wouldn't be familiar with web sites and e commerce.
If you want to be at the top of a search result, you pay. At the very top #1 you pay the most and as you go down the list you pay less. I believe it's also done on a bid ask type auction type system , or so I've been told.

Now with that tidbit of information, you can figure out how they are getting paid and can assume how those who direct people to google or yahoo get reffereal commissions.

George

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
Yeah, that's the part I don't get. Who's buying things from those that pay into adsence? I never have and don't know anyone that has!

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----- Original Message ----- From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Marlon is missing the advertizing dollars.

Eve I am getting money from google through their adsense. Not a lot, but it's a check.

George



Patrick Leary wrote:
? Marlon, income is never recorded with "investor monies" except to the
extent corporate investments generate returns (or losses) that must be
recorded.

Google makes nearly everyone money, including you and me, explained in
the simplest terms to be by creating amazing efficiencies that were not
there prior.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:17 AM
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I guess when I said that I phrased it wrong.  I still don't get Google's

product model.  What do they have that makes anyone else any money?

Also, when I think of a company making money I want to know what the
income is WITHOUT the investor monies. I'd be making tons of money if I got to

count loans as income (and investor is just a banker at the end of the
day).

Marlon
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Google is not losing money. It is profitable and has been for sometime.
In just the past four quarters, in fact, it reported upside surprises in
terms of EPS in each quarter. It also has a war chest of billions. In
2006 it generated about $10.6 billion in revenues...all with under
11,000 full time employees. In other words, they are generating about $1
million in revenue for every full time employee. Google is a
cash-generating machine Marlon.

Not sure where you get your data. I get mine from its Annual Report
filed with the SEC.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
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c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:39 AM
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Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks.

I have a customer that moved.  Loved our wireless so much she went with
another wireless provider in the new local.  Clearwire.

I'm told there was no comparison.  Oh well, with so much money to play
with....

Wonder if they'll ever actually earn real money?

This stock market thing amazes me.  Google's loosing money and sitll
gets
investors.  Vonage looses money and still gets investors.  We MAKE money
and
can't get growth funds.

sigh
Marlon
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:04 AM
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Yes, it is good. So good that they were able to let loose with a reserve
of an additional 4 million shares, with all shares entering the market
at the high end of their anticipated offer price range. Remember, they
also received $900M last year in what was the largest venture deal in
the U.S. to date. That came from Intel with participation from Motorola.
The details were not fully made public, but as part Motorola agreed to
buy their NextNet business. We also know that Intel owns like 33% of the
business. McCaw owns the same, though he retains 49% voting rights.

All this combined gives Clearwire a rough market cap of $3B dollars now,
which grows McCaw's personal net worth from about $2B to $3B.

So, if anyone though Clearwire was already aggressively trying to access
local BRS and EBS spectrum, you ain't seen nothing yet. Must be nice.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:34 AM
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Is $600m good?  I thought they owed that much in bank loans already.

Marlon
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42846865 (icq)                                    And I run my own wisp!
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:15 AM
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Clearwire IPO'ed and got $600M, twice the price of the BellSouth
spectrum.
EarthLink is buying the Corpus Christi wi-fi network for $5.5M.

ELN will market TIVO.

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Regards,

Peter Radizeski
RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate
813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com


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