Pete, you hit on an interesting idea. What if the FCC were to pay the
ISP say $500 each year to fill out the 477? Would more ISP's participate?
John
Pete Davis wrote:
12000, 6000, 2000, or whatever number of WISPs is mainly hard to
quantify because there are LOTS of 2 and 3 customer private wireless
networks, where a business will buy a T1, DSL or whatever, and share
it wirelessly with a few nearby business, within or without the terms
of service agreements. Those guys may have bought their equipment from
vendor X, and most likely didn't tell anyone (not even the FCC or the
RUS) about their venture. This adds a new "customer" to Electrocomm's
roll's and one of 12000 "wisps" in the mix of some of these
speculative counts.
Another customer of WISP equipment that is not a WISP might be the
colleges and universities. Many colleges use wireless backhauls and
hotspots on campus. Does that make them a WISP?
University of Houston Victoria Campus has some wireless stuff in their
network for their campus. If they have 1000 students who use it, does
that make them a 1000 subscriber wisp? I doubt that they filed a 477.
If they bought from Smartbridges, Hutton, Electrocomm, or whoever
Marlon might have probed, then they are on his radar, but not
necessarily a real privately held, public-serving WISP.
As far as serving the underserved, like the FCC wants us to do, so
they can give out these low-cost loans, if they would simply offer tax
breaks to WISPs who DO register and deliver broadband to customers who
live in areas of less than (x/sq mile) density. Sort of like the USF
money, but with income tax breaks instead of $100+/mo/sub incentive
like ATT gets in some markets. Anyway offering tax breaks to
"registered" rural WISPs would get those 477 forms filled out to show
a true(er) number. This would boost our numbers in the eyes of the
elected officials, and be a boom for free enterprise and all that it
stands for, and I think the broadband subscribers census numbers would
put us even or ahead of the rest of the world.
Sprint/Nextel seem to be stepping up to the plate and helping with our
goal of market penetration
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/wireless/sprint-wimax-24mpbs-55month-open-access-yes-please-229995.php
We don't have gigabit fiber to the home like the Japanese, but we also
don't all live in the same skyscraper that we work and shop in either.
If shopping/working/living under a single roof was common, fiber
broadband would make more sense.
We may not have the same market penetration as Australia, but we also
don't have $10+/hr minimum wage. I know that a LOT of people consider
$39/mo for internet a burden, especially in smaller towns, where the
best paying job down at the mill has 40 year old men making $7.50/hr.
Of course, the $30/hr on the oilfield and the $50/hr offshore oilfield
jobs make a difference in the labor pool also, making it hard to get
qualified affordable help to install ISP customers.
If your goal is 100% broadband market penetration for every home in
the US, I suppose we could take the foodstamps approach to it. Add
$500/yr/household tax to the IRS, then distribute $40/mo coupons to
every household. If they want the basic service, the coupon should
cover it. If they want the $80/mo service, it will cost a little more,
but this will ensure that EVERY customer could afford it, and it would
cost everyone the same. This is a ridiculous proposal, but it would
truly "level the playing field". unfortunately it would also bring out
every dirtbag and put them into the ISP business buying the coupon
books for 1/10 of their redemption value from crackheads. If you had
guaranteed 100% market penetration, how much cheaper could you offer
service? Delivering service to a customer base without a computer in
the home would be EASY if there was a $40 coupon that I could buy from
them for $4.
pd
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
There were 12,000 on the rolls. The largest single count was 6000.
I assumed a 75% overlap to be on the safe side.
But with a high of 6000 at ONE company, there's no way to have
overlap on that 6000. The real number in 2004 was somewhere around
that 6000 mark.
And for your 40% that are gone, how many new are out there that we've
not heard about yet.
How many muni networks are out there? They too are wisps.
laters,
Marlon
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband
Competition
And that was 2004.
I'm not arguing just to argue. This is a soapbox, so delete and
move on if you want.
When you go to the Feds and say that there are 6000 and only 400
have reported, that doesn't bode well for anyone.
It makes the Feds nervous. It shines an ugly light on this so-called
Industry.
As Powell has stated it is way easier to deal with 12 companies
using the same platforms than 1000's using many platforms. And Gonzo
and K-Mart feel the same way (since they take their cues from the
Roving 3).
And when the gov't wants control and CALEA and surveillance and etc.
and they can't get cooperation from this Industry, what do you think
will happen?
They will pick up a pen and wipe it out.
But, Marlon, as I mentioned off-list, going through my Florida ISP
database, about 40% are gone and some that are in business are not
an ISP any longer.
- Peter
Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:
Except that the SAME wisps were dealing with the top 5 or 6 vendors,
so your count is quite inflated.
Lonnie
On 4/20/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
In case you missed it in an earlier email.
I called the top 5 or 6 vendors in the WISP space and pestered
them till
they told me how many providers they had on the books as WISPs.
MUCH more accurate than the 477 and a similar or more
comprehensive effort
by the FCC would take someone all over a day or two.
That help?
Marlon
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