It could also be argued that the direction of the traffic may not matter
relating to fees, when it is all primarilly local traffic.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP Peering
At one time, a local operator here in the valley tried to set this up, not
with BGP and classic peering, but simple static routing to route just that
ISP's clients traffic to them. Thus, traffic bound for each other went
through a dedicated pipe. of course, this was simple and cheap, back
when
everyone was connected via frame relay and adding a PVC wasn't expensive
or
difficult.
It would be slightly more complex for WISP's to do this, but for some, it
might save a bit of bandwidth through the provider.
I don't really think there's all that much in terms of percentage, of
traffic from residential or even SOHO customes to other residential / soho
customers, so I don't see much value in that.
instead, it might seem a bit more... useful?... to instead do classic
peering with each other, all at a fixed per-gig transfer or per KByte flow
charge for traffic. If we both have a lot of traffic, but it's equal to
me
from you and to you from me, then the charges cancel each other. It
would
also be a means of adding redundancy to your own network, and decreased
downtime, better paths (lower hop counts).
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP Peering
You would classically arrange a peering agreement. You hand each other
a equal amount of capacity (say 1mbit) and a BGP table. You each use
the link like another upstream provider, balancing routes vs capacity
vs (what ever else you want). Some peerages have a set cost per bit
transfered and the groups settle up monthly. The main problem I see is
one entity will be at a disadvantage then the other due to size. Say
isp A has 2 peers, the other has 4. That means isp B will "need" isp
A's links less then B needs A's. There is a very (in)famous case of
exactly that (AOL and Cogent). How do you value your peering abilities
vs those of someone else, with more or less peers and more or less
capacity.
On 4/26/07, Jory Privett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have two PoPs where I have bandwidth for my network. In the same
area I
> know of at least 4 other WISPs that have bandwidth also. I was just
wanting
> to establish a link to one or more of them and start routing (BGP most
> likely) and pass traffic over each others network. This would allow
each to
> have more capacity and redundancy and not have to pay any large amount
for
> it. I know all of the big players do it and it is the basic fabric the
> internet is made of. I was just wondering if any WISPs do it and how?
>
> Jory Privett
> WCCS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP Peering
>
>
> > Jory,
> >
> > I am not sure what you are trying to do with the other WISP's in your
> > area. Can you a little more clear on what you are thinking of?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dawn DiPietro
> >
> > Jory Privett wrote:
> >> There are several WISP in my area I was wanting to talk to some of
them
> >> about bandwidth peering. I know that most will not want anything to
do
> >> with it since they refuse to co-operate in any other way but I
> >> wanted
to
> >> make the effort. Has anyone else done this type of thing? What
> >> paperwork needs to be done to protect each company? How do you
control
> >> throughput to and from each network and routing issues? Any help
> >> her
> >> would be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Jory Privett
> >> WCCS
> >>
> >
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