their 2 concerns I noted are their margins and their liability of customer data being passed onto the buyer and puting a companies data at risk and be sued.. They fear being sued because of the data that this box captures, they made the box, so they are liable for it. Kind of like a gun manufacturer, match manufacturers, knife manufacturers...and so on...get their paranoid view yet, when it can all be managed by wipeing or replaceing a hard drive... oh well...

They will not budge on this. I told them I would inform the industry and it will impact their future sales I am certain.

Ross

----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Brownlee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:46 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email


You may consider leasing the server? Perhaps you can deal with support and
licensing and lease it to a third party. Maybe get some roi anyway.

Brandon

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ross Cornett
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:39 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email

Ok. It is final. You cannot resell your Barracuda box to anyone and expect

Barracuda to license it.  I just spoke with a VP of sales and he said just
that.  I told him that they should tell people this when they buy them and
he told me they "try" to tell everyone.  I will tell you this.... I wasn't
told.  $2500 later it isn't worth a dime.

I did ask why they cannot refurb the machine for a fee and then allow it to be resold. They told me it wasn't policy to do this. I look at it as this
is how they are protecting their margins on new sales.  No buy back no
resale, no good, but I will have fun when I take my .270 and try to paint a smiley face on it from 200 yards away. Oh, he did mention that it is still a functioning server if I wanted to use as such. Anyway, end of thread for

me. I just want you all to know this if you consider purchasing one. Stay
with it for 3 years or you lost your investment.

Thanks for the headsup on this guys.  Now we know.   I hope I stuck to the
facts with no rumor or bad info.

Ross



----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Tetherow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email


Like Microsoft?  If you read user agreements, you will find that many
software vendors do not allow license transfer.

   Sam Tetherow
   Sandhills Wireless

Mike Hammett wrote:
I'd refuse to do business with a company like that.


-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email


Ross Cornett wrote:
I have a barracuda for sale if anyone is interrested off list.
Switched
from Postini to Barracuda and it was like I turned off their oxigen.
Had to go back to postini.

So, if you are interrested email me off list.  I will make you a deal

Fair warning for anyone who's interested in this: Check with Barracuda
first, to be sure you can actually do this. A few months back, I picked
up a used Barracuda Spam Firewall on eBay, and they wouldn't activate it
or provide me service, as it was second-hand.

There were other odd circumstances involving this particular unit, but I
got the impression that they don't like dealing with "used" units,
period. Call Barracuda, make sure this won't be a problem. (You may want
to get the serial number of the unit first, as that's how they track
update subscriptions and whatnot.)

David Smith
MVN.net
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