Same here with Kris Twomey, and I AM now using Frank Muto's Postini product... He gives a good discount to WISPA members, gave a 30-day trial, and spent alot of time on the phone with me in training. Now it's like "Spam? What spam?" from my customers that I have turned it on for.
Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998-5555 541-998-5599 fax ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Norris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] What is WISPA? was Promotion of services on-list > Well as a new member to Wispa I have already got back half my dues by using > Kris Twomey, and I am gonna look at Frank Muto's product. > > Robert > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Butch Evans > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:19 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: RE: [WISPA] What is WISPA? was Promotion of services on-list > > On Fri, 18 May 2007, Chadd Thompson wrote: > > >I am sorry but as I mentioned above I can not see from the outside > >what WISPA is doing or has going on. Maybe I am not paying close > >enough attention, I don't know. > > I'll just mention TWO examples. Direct $ for $ examples, too. You > may not be using these services, but they answer the question, and > both were posted right here on this list. > > 1. Kris Twomey (even now) is selling the legal service of doing the > filing for CALEA at $100 (or $125...I can't recall) for WISPA > members. He charges $250 to do it for NON WISPA members. That is a > direct $125 (worst case) savings. If you use this service, the > "real" cost of a WISPA membership is $125. > > 2. Frank Muto sells an email filtering service (Postini) and has > offered to pay for your full WISPA membership with the purchase of > some level of service with him. I can't recall the specific > details, but his offer makes WISPA membership absolutely free. > > Those are just 2 examples, both of which were posted right here on > this free list. > > >Looking from the outside it doesn't always appear that the ORG is > >able to uphold the code of ethics. This is mainly based off of > >discussions held on the freelist. I see comments from members, > >officers of the ORG that I feel do not uphold the above listed > >items from the code of ethics. > > I'd really like to understand what you see that makes this a true > statement. > > >Again please read this as an outsider looking in, trying to > >understand what WISPA has going on or as done for our industry and > >what the value is for me to join. I am not saying WISPA is not > >doing or has not done anything for our industry. I just need some > >help understanding. > > I am not gonna "sell" you the organization. But I will work on > answering this a little. > > 1. WISPA is right now working on a standard that will make CALEA > safe harbor VERY INEXPENSIVE for WISPs. Not just members. This is > an INDUSTRY solution. > > 2. WISPA has been urging WISPs to file the 477 forms, which is > important because it will make us, as an industry, a larger portion > of the broadband deployment in the US (statistically) as far as the > government is concerned. Why is this important? Besides being the > law, government is working to insure that "every American has access > to broadband". If we are providing that service in an area and they > don't know about it, they will still work on a way to get that > access available. > > 3. WISPA has urged (on several occasions) WISPs to file comments on > various spectrum issues that would be beneficial to WISPs. WISPA > has (as an organization) filed comments as well. Because we don't > have the $$ to hire a lobby, this is the best effort in this regard. > > Now it's time to ask YOU what YOU have done for our industry. Have > you filed comments on the issues that will impact your business? > For the most part, over the past couple of years WISPA has. Have > you filed your 477? > > If you're not going to join, then just don't join. Stop making > excuses about "what are you doing"...You claim to be on the list > since the beginning and you can't see what's been happening? What > advantage does WISPA offer you? Give me a break. WISPA has done a > LOT, considering the $$ that they have to work with. Either join or > don't, but stop acting as though you need to be "sold" because you > can't find anything on the website giving you what the value of > WISPA is. > > FWIW, I do agree that WISPA needs to do a better job of selling > itself on the website, but the point (in your case) is that you are > just using it as an excuse, IMO. > > -- > Butch Evans > Network Engineering and Security Consulting > 573-276-2879 > http://www.butchevans.com/ > My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 > Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf > Mikrotik Certified Consultant > http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
