Before drilling ANY hole in a tower leg, I would check with the
manufacturer.  Maybe a better option is to remove a bolt if possible, but
will probably not be unless it is your lucky day.

Ralph


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 5:43 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower ACCIDENT

fyi
marlon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jeremy-ca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Blake M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bill 
Winkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower ACCIDENT


> First of all, ANY tower that is installed by burying a section should be
> suspect UNLESS you are absolutely sure that the legs have plenty of
> drainage.
>
> Drilling a small hole in the legs a few inches above ground can give you 
> an
> idea if there is standing water. If the water is clear then it is probably
> safe; if rusty then walk away.
>
> If its a dry hole at that level then snake some cotton string down the 
> hole.
> If it comes back wet and rusty then Id also suggest not climbing.
>
> New tower construction should always use a base plate and pier pin if the
> only support is guy wires. If house bracketed then a minimum of 2 brackets
> is required. The base should be a standard base plate but with one hole at
> each corner and secured to the concrete with 3/4"  J bolts.
>
> An existing tower that was installed without drainage MAY have its life
> extended by drilling those small holes I mentioned. Then with ~ 3/16" 
> tubing
> inserted down to the bottom regularly pump out any water. There are ways 
> to
> derust the legs and seal against further rust but its an iffy proposition
> when you cant tell the extent of the damage.
>
> Carl
> KM1H
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Winkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Blake M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower ACCIDENT
>
>
>> This information is all well and good ... it rings with a bell of
>> caution ... BUT , how do you know .. ????
>> In this case the climber felt all was well until the tower came down
>> with him on it .. but now how in the world do you test and determine
>> all is OK before you climb.?? Or what steps do you use to protect
>> your self ...
>> Certainly the professional tower people who partake in this forum
>> will have a degree of in site for us .. but it needs to be
>> discussed.!!! We've got guys here with 5-10-20 plus years old towers
>> ....What is the answer??
>>
>> -Bill
>>
>> At 10:05 PM 6/26/2007, Blake M wrote:
>>
>>>If I had a nickel for every time somebody has told me this line....!!
>>>
>>>In my experience, what this really means is:
>>>
>>>"This is a hack-job install, but I really need to make you believe it's 
>>>OK
>>>or else you're going to bolt on me and I'm going to have to fork out 
>>>major
>>>coin for a crane."
>>>
>>>Simple psych 101.... If you have a pretty girlfriend, you wouldn't have 
>>>to
>>>walk around telling people how pretty she is, now, would you?  ;-)
>>>
>>>Be safe....
>>>
>>>73,
>>>Blake N4GI
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
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>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard J. Fiero 
>>>II
>>>W5TFW
>>>
>>>  The owner told me that he and his Brother Both men about 230 pounds 
>>> each
>>>had been on the tower recently
>>>at the same time and that it was strong as an ox.
>>>
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