A layman's version (i.e.
"File sharing programs such as Limewire will be slower than other
traffic, 128Kbps compared to the standard 5120Kbps") should be included
along with a technical version.


Very well said.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Whigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Look how ComCast deals with P2P


On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 13:01 -0500, David E. Smith wrote:
CHUCK PROFITO wrote:
> http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071019/D8SCASQ80.html

Comcast has been doing this for a few months, actually. By most
accounts, the traffic is throttled at their network edges - i.e. two
Comcast customers can trade files all they want, the throttling only
kicks in when one of them tries to exchange data with a non-Comcast peer.

My network throttles peer-to-peer traffic because that traffic does
really nasty things to our customer APs (the last-mile hop). Comcast
isn't doing anything there, according to the reports I've seen.

They're probably trying to save a few bucks on interconnectivity and
peering agreements, on the assumption that traffic within their
already-existing network is "free."

David Smith
MVN.net

"Comcast does not block access to any applications, including
BitTorrent,"

The problem with any provider who does traffic shaping is the marketing.
Customers are being deceived.  Providers have been lying or simply not
telling customers about such shaping for years.

Customers expect a vanilla, uninhibited service, either best effort or a
guaranteed speed.  Anything less should be explicitly and plainly
described in a prominent place near the offers/service definitions
themselves.  Shaping, blocked ports and similar restrictions should be
included in this limitations description.  A layman's version (i.e.
"File sharing programs such as Limewire will be slower than other
traffic, 128Kbps compared to the standard 5120Kbps") should be included
along with a technical version.

Brian

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