Yes, you can do so with Dell.  I just received an ad from them about one.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Broadwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 6:01 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT......Question


Is it still possible to buy a new computer and use XP?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 6:23 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

Games.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 7:38 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT......Question


We've standardized on XP/PRO SP2 for the office.

We tried Vista and, although some fanatics show it can be a bit but
definitely slower, that's not meaningful.

The computers, themselves, suffer intractable problems with Vista with
less
than 2G memory, but with that memory or more, it's OK.  (Why it becomes
unstable under 2Gb is the subject of wild, physical arguments).

We haven't had driver problems.

We have had significantly more hang-ups with Vista. Not many, but perhaps
50% more.

The GUI is, perhaps, more intuitive but it splits functionality that was,
in
XP, in one place into several far flung places.  It may make more sense
but
drives the old folks (over 20 years old) crazy.

The reallocation of facilities that were in XP-HOME and XP-PRO into
fragmented pieces within an array of options of Vista upgrades is driving
the support guys nuts.  Ordinary users who had a handle on XP are now
calling support.

The removal of OUTLOOK 2007 from Student/Teacher 2007 meant that folks
with
a teacher wife and student kids can't use it for work.  That just makes
people mad at Microsoft.

Since we stick with Lenovo/IBM for laptops, etc., we can still order
XP/PRO
(at a small cost).

It doesn't appear that "VISTA" was a good business/technical decision on
Microsoft's part but I'm sure it will pay off through the sales of new
PCs.

It's not the end of the world...it just appears dumb...really dumb.

It turns out that Macintosh computers with Microsoft Office have been more
and more popular and we accept that for our system.  They have caused no
problems...perhaps because the Mac-fanatics stick together and
aggressively
help each other the way early PC users used to do.  There are only a tiny
fraction of PC users that utilize applications that aren't available on
Macintosh as the same or better.  That argument doesn't fly anymore.

. . . J o n a t h a n



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 7:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

Hi,

Every single test out there shows Vista is SLOWER on an identical machine
running XP. Why would I "upgrade" to an OS that is slower?

Travis
Microserv

Mike Hammett wrote:
Agreed.  This happens with every OS release...  It's OH SO HORRIBLE...
but then in a year or so, everyone forgets their fabricated fears.
I've been using Vista for about 4 months and have 0 issues with Vista
itself.  Sure, I've had problems with vendors who are slow to update
software\drivers, but that's not Microsoft's fault...  that's the
fault of lazy vendors *cough* DELL *cough*.


-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT......Question



In a message dated 12/9/2007 11:25:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

dreaded  MS Vista


Why is everyone so down on Vista?  I have been using it for a long
time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate Version,
without problems [laptops and PC's].  I think it is more a learning
curve with so many changes from the earlier versions.  Vista is here
to stay and you  should be learning it-not going backwards.


Walter W.  Stumpf Jr.
Xanadu Group Inc.
179 Statesville Quarry Road
Lafayette NJ  07848-3128 USA
973-702-3899
fax  775-667-1995




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