Travis,

There are many things I do not like about both products, But there are more 
things that I like about them, and I can tell you that they are both very 
different products, and we use each of them for different purposes.  I could 
spend hours answering your question.

StarOS was a Rocky road, for a few version during their transition in 
bridging methods. But I can tell you that their later versions of Firmware 
are working great. We Bridge all our StarOS CPEs/APs today. The reason is we 
have a provisioning system at our master cell sites, so we use the STAROS 
boxes in a simple configuration, purposefully.  We don't want "Feature" when 
we use it. We wanted reliabilty and simplicity. StarOS has accomplished that 
rather well. The new certified Lucaya systems pretty much sealed the deal, 
on the value it delivers. It is so rediculaously low priced now, for a 4 
port system, its not even funny.  The secret was 533Mhz 4-port boards board, 
and NOW THEY HAVE THEM. The value of STAROS is that it now does do rock 
solid True Bridging that you can count on. It does it with Auto-WDS. So it 
figures out on its own whether to WDS or Not. Its our preferred choice for a 
AP and CPE, without a unique need otherwise.

 First thing to realize is that Radio software brands will NOT be 
interchangable in the new generation, because of the trend of using true 
bridging via WDS. All the manufactuerers do it differently.
Sure you can use another brand to connect as a WIFI CPE, but for Bridging, 
you are stuck on the software platform. But thats no different than Mikrotik 
and Nstreme.  What StarOS does is allows many many choises in hardware 
platforms.  Its a happy day to know WARs, ADI, Lucaya, and many more are 
available.

Where StarOS has failed is that they have not yet realized the value of 3-10 
port Ethernet CPE systems.  NOr have they realized the need for two Etherent 
ports on a low cost CPE.  Mikrotik clearly has. Hardware defines when I use 
StarOS or MIkrotik, not Software. What about the 1 story warehouse building 
type business parks? Or Shopping center? With no conduit or path from 
central telecom closet to suites, or for that matter no central closet. The 
only way to share CPE, is down through the roof. Usually through inside 
rooftop AC Compressors.  Its a pain, finding an outdoor enclosure big enough 
for a switch, rated for outdoors, and AC power, etc. But wit hMikrotik it a 
turn key system ready to go with no hassle and no added cost.  THIS IS 
INVALUABLE. THANK YOU MIKROTIK. Mikrotik was behind because they did not 
have fast enough mainboards. StarOS would outperform them. However, that is 
changing. The 400Mhz 532board performs much better. As do their new 
processor boards, so I hear.

Mikrotik has a hidden cost. They give you their firmware, but you have to 
buy it in one year to keep getting upgrades. However StarOS, really give it 
for Free.

Mikrotik is clearly the winner on having the most software features, and 
full fledged graphical interface, making them easy to configure. (PS I 
prefer not haviong the graphic interface for basic CPEs and APs). Its really 
easy to misconfigure Mikrotik. But Mikrotik can be a best of clss full 
fledge Cell router. (not saying that StarOS cant)

I really like that StarOS has Iperf built in on the command line interface. 
Thats saved my but many a time, in finding where problems were with 
quality..

STAROS  has OLSR for those that want more than just OSPF.
Mikrotik now has MPLS, for those that want a bit more than OLSR and OSPF.

I'd like to point out, one flaw in the Internet is the industry decided on 
destination based routing. There can be benefits to routing packets based on 
where they came from or any other criteria. MPLS helps solve that. I 
personally think its REAL BIG that Mikrotik is stepping up first to offer a 
MPLS implementation.

StarOS is easier to managem, because its interface can be gotten to from 
anty device any where with SSH. Mikrotik's Winbox is really nice, but you 
need to be at a graphical PC to use. Although it has command line option, 
its a bit clunky, compared to StarOS's nice menu driven console.

I think Mikrotik does a better job at getting the radio cards to put out the 
power you are configuring them to put out. With StarOS, never really know 
what the cards are really putting out, if the hardware or software is 
setting the actual speed.

Doing feature to feature comparisons are jsut to encumbersome now, they both 
support to many features :-)

I make the dsecssions based on the primary basic features.

I will tell you, LigoWave still puts out the very best quality hardware 
system for 4 port system. Ligo software is comming around, and getting 
powerful, but still much more slower to use the configuration console.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:55 PM
Subject: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS


> Hi,
>
> Anyone care to help "compare" a Mikrotik based bridged AP/CPE solution
> to StarOS?
>
> Here is a quick list I have come up with. I would love to have everyone
> add their thoughts...
>
> Mikrotik features:
> graphical user interface (Winbox)
> more features (Torch, etc)
> more hardware choices (RB532, RB411, RB600, etc.)
> Nstreme protocol
> very reliable
>
> StarOS features:
> FCC certified CPE
> lower price
> 'Sync' feature (reconfigure all CPE from the AP side with a single
> change, such as frequency)
> OLSR feature
> VoIP priority with minimal config
> 200 CPE per wireless card (capable)
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
>
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