Ugg, sorry, meant to say, I'm not the network "admin"

George Rogato wrote:
> I'm not the network for my network.
> I do know that what we do is to limit the number of connections. Mike 
> our admin has a script that runs, I'm assuming on a bsd box that 
> probably handles nat, that closes some of those connections when a limit 
> is reached. That is why on our network, if you have a public ip P2P 
> works great, and if you are assigned a private, it's slow.
> 
> Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
>> The real problem is the number of connections.   One client opening up 
>> 300-400 connections is going to cause all kinds of problems.   Being 
>> able to limit connections is a pretty important item to be able to 
>> handle on a wireless network.
>>
>> Matt Larsen
>> Vistabeam.com
>>
>> Mike Hammett wrote:
>>> and I forgot to say what I was initially going to say...
>>>
>>> You may need better APs.  I have 30+ customers on a single tower with more 
>>> than one client running P2P applications (including BitTorrent) and 
>>> everything works just fine.  That said, my AP is a 4-radio 4-sector AP that 
>>> is a PC running Mikrotik.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Uh-Oh, " they are ready to discipline Internet service 
>>> providers"
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>>> I see this as a good thing.  We don't really care what our users do with
>>>>>       
>>>> the
>>>>     
>>>>> bandwidth they buy from us as long as it's legal.  Bandwidth hungry
>>>>>       
>>>> applications are good for our model as the more they need the more they
>>>> buy.
>>>>     
>>>>> I don't see that as a bad thing for our bottom line!
>>>>>       
>>>> Speak for yourself.
>>>>
>>>> (By the way, I am speaking for myself, not for my boss, my employer, WISPA
>>>> itself for whom I do occasional work, or anyone else. This is always the
>>>> case, but I feel especially compelled to mention it here.)
>>>>
>>>> The day a legislature or court orders me to stop shaping p2p traffic, I'll
>>>> dust off my resume, because the network will melt shortly thereafter,
>>>> beyond my ability to repair.
>>>>
>>>> The inexpensive last-mile gear many smaller wireless operators use don't
>>>> respond well to p2p traffic. Towers with fifty customers can be brought to
>>>> their knees by ONE customer with an encrypted BitTorrent client, or
>>>> Limewire, or other p2p software.
>>>>
>>>> (Every time this subject comes up, there's a bunch of "just build out your
>>>> network to handle the load durrrr" punters. As that isn't always feasible,
>>>> given the limitations of small company budgets and the technology
>>>> available within said budgets, let's just assume I don't have millions of
>>>> dollars handy to do so.)
>>>>
>>>> My sole concern is keeping my network running as well as possible, given
>>>> the limits of the budget and technology at my disposal. I don't care what
>>>> you're downloading, and if I had a choice I wouldn't care about how you're
>>>> downloading it. I don't even care whether it's for "legal" use. (And let's
>>>> not kid ourselves on that point.)
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, as near as I can tell, the folks making these edicts aren't
>>>> making the distinction between social and technical reasons for traffic
>>>> shaping.
>>>>
>>>> David Smith
>>>>
>>>>
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