Ugg, sorry, meant to say, I'm not the network "admin" George Rogato wrote: > I'm not the network for my network. > I do know that what we do is to limit the number of connections. Mike > our admin has a script that runs, I'm assuming on a bsd box that > probably handles nat, that closes some of those connections when a limit > is reached. That is why on our network, if you have a public ip P2P > works great, and if you are assigned a private, it's slow. > > Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: >> The real problem is the number of connections. One client opening up >> 300-400 connections is going to cause all kinds of problems. Being >> able to limit connections is a pretty important item to be able to >> handle on a wireless network. >> >> Matt Larsen >> Vistabeam.com >> >> Mike Hammett wrote: >>> and I forgot to say what I was initially going to say... >>> >>> You may need better APs. I have 30+ customers on a single tower with more >>> than one client running P2P applications (including BitTorrent) and >>> everything works just fine. That said, my AP is a 4-radio 4-sector AP that >>> is a PC running Mikrotik. >>> >>> >>> ---------- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:12 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Uh-Oh, " they are ready to discipline Internet service >>> providers" >>> >>> >>> >>>>> I see this as a good thing. We don't really care what our users do with >>>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>>> bandwidth they buy from us as long as it's legal. Bandwidth hungry >>>>> >>>> applications are good for our model as the more they need the more they >>>> buy. >>>> >>>>> I don't see that as a bad thing for our bottom line! >>>>> >>>> Speak for yourself. >>>> >>>> (By the way, I am speaking for myself, not for my boss, my employer, WISPA >>>> itself for whom I do occasional work, or anyone else. This is always the >>>> case, but I feel especially compelled to mention it here.) >>>> >>>> The day a legislature or court orders me to stop shaping p2p traffic, I'll >>>> dust off my resume, because the network will melt shortly thereafter, >>>> beyond my ability to repair. >>>> >>>> The inexpensive last-mile gear many smaller wireless operators use don't >>>> respond well to p2p traffic. Towers with fifty customers can be brought to >>>> their knees by ONE customer with an encrypted BitTorrent client, or >>>> Limewire, or other p2p software. >>>> >>>> (Every time this subject comes up, there's a bunch of "just build out your >>>> network to handle the load durrrr" punters. As that isn't always feasible, >>>> given the limitations of small company budgets and the technology >>>> available within said budgets, let's just assume I don't have millions of >>>> dollars handy to do so.) >>>> >>>> My sole concern is keeping my network running as well as possible, given >>>> the limits of the budget and technology at my disposal. I don't care what >>>> you're downloading, and if I had a choice I wouldn't care about how you're >>>> downloading it. I don't even care whether it's for "legal" use. (And let's >>>> not kid ourselves on that point.) >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, as near as I can tell, the folks making these edicts aren't >>>> making the distinction between social and technical reasons for traffic >>>> shaping. >>>> >>>> David Smith >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >
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