Strange stuff happens sometimes.

Here's an example from here.  Two days ago I was at a customer's site.  Been 
there for about 9 months.  Things were working just fine.  Then they started 
to flake out and eventually quit completely.

They were connected to the ap and had an rssi of -76 or so.  There was one 
pine tree in the way but the link was only 3 blocks.

Today I pulled down the amp'd omni and put up a 10dB omni with no amp 
(furthest customer has turned out to be a mere 3 miles).  Service wouldn't 
work with an Inscape data radio that has 9dB built in antenna.

Pulled out the Teletronics ap and put in a Mikrotik unit with an xr2 card. 
Now things seem to be working, the customer that had no service two days ago 
got 2.8 megs today.  Not bad for a 3 meg dsl fed system.

Go figure.
marlon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J. Vogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Some days I don't seem to know anything.


> Thanks for the reply. Good advice from both you and Chris.
>
> I actually am just using the plain jane wireless adapter that walmart
> had put in this old
> HP Pavilion ze4900. As a general rule it does fairly well, but not so
> well that it would
> out-perform the PCI cards I use. I figure if the laptop will connect,
> the PCI card will
> definitely work, usually a lot better. Unless... something happens like
> what did yesterday.
>
> Sure wish I knew what was happening. The recommendation for wi-spy is
> appreciated.
>
> John
>
> Mark Williams wrote:
>> I have seen this before also. Chris is right to mention that the desktop
>> and your laptop are likely
>> reacting differently due to rec. sens. and / or power , IE fade margin
>> differences.
>>
>> Not trying to shamelessly plug products here, but I find a wi-spy to be
>> very helpful in this situation.
>> Sometimes the noise source is simply not wifi related and the wi-spy
>> will help you to identify
>> the best frequency selection.
>>
>> Also, I HIGHLY recommend that you standardize on deployed wifi bridges /
>> adapters and make sure
>> you run the same equipment in your laptop. I've seen a lot of WISP techs
>> who add higher end / power
>> wifi adapters in their laptops and while it may be greatly beneficial
>> from a daily use standpoint, as
>> a tech it detracts from your ability to diagnose customer SINR issues.
>>
>> There are many non-wifi noise sources and the WiSpy is very much worth
>> having.
>> -Mark Williams
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 09:41 -0400, chris cooper wrote:
>>
>>
>>> John-
>>>
>>> It sounds like you might have noise impacting the local AP on channels
>>> 1-6.  Is the power and receive sensitivity the same on your laptop vs.
>>> the customer PC?  That might be the reason you are seeing the difference
>>> in performance between the two.  Did you run netstumbler or otherwise
>>> look at the spectrum?  Any chances of a local interferer in the house or
>>> garage?
>>>
>>> chris
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>> Behalf Of J. Vogel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:28 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Some days I don't seem to know anything.
>>>
>>> Is it possible for interference to prevent a signal from showing up in a
>>>
>>> site
>>> survey in Windows Zero Configuration utility? I set up a relay AP at a
>>> home yesterday, the AP being on the roof of the garage (couldn't get
>>> a link to my tower from the house). The wireless card I put in the
>>> customers
>>> computer would not connect to (usually would not even see) the AP,
>>> although
>>> it would find APs in other homes 1/2 mile away at times. My laptop,
>>> sitting
>>> on the desk next to the computer, connected immediately, with great
>>> signal
>>> strength. BUT, if I changed the channel to either 9, 10, or 11, then the
>>> desktop unit would connect, also with great signal strength. I changed
>>> out
>>> the radio on the garage, changed the PCI wireless card in the desktop,
>>> antennas,
>>> everything, but as long as the AP was on channel 8 or lower, the desktop
>>> would usually not find it, and when it did, the RSSI was very low. My
>>> laptop
>>> however, did not have any problems connecting no matter what channel
>>> the AP was on, with excellent RSSI reported on all channels.
>>>
>>> Is there an explanation for what I was seeing?
>>>
>>>
>>
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