VoIP faxing currently sucks. G.711 technically can do it, but if there is ANY network oddities, it won't work. T.38 is supposed to be the savior, but it's been hell getting my providers to work. Their vendors use broken implementations and refuse to fix it.
---------- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "CHUCK PROFITO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Femtocells > John, please explain *can* or what is best for faxing? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John Thomas > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 12:59 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Femtocells > > G.711 *can* support FAXing, otherwise g.729 is very common for voice. > > > John > > Mike Hammett wrote: >> I know. AT&T and T-Mobile use GSM (the GSM for wireless is the same as > the >> GSM VoIP codec). I dunno if the CDMA operators translate to anything in > the >> VoIP world or not. >> >> I've tested with various codecs and I may use G.729 at some point, but >> for > >> now I'm limiting myself to G.711 and G.722 once I get some business >> customers interested in it. >> >> >> ---------- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bryan Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 8:58 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Femtocells >> >> >> >>> The cell carriers aren't using G711. I haven't seen how much a UMA call >>> takes up, but I'd bet it's less than the 90K of G.711u. UMA basically >>> encapsulates a GSM stream inside of an IPSEC tunnel. EDGE traffic gets >>> up to 100K+ when surfing or downloading files, so I could see a data >>> stream over UMA going up to 150-200K. >>> >>> If you're talking EVDO data transfers via a femtocell, it could get up >>> to a couple megabits (whatever they're touting EVDO's capability as, >>> plus some overhead for security). >>> >>> -- Bryan >>> >>> Mike Hammett wrote: >>> >>>> I dunno if I'd use anything less than G.711. >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Chuck McCown - 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 11:08 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Femtocells >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> G.711 require 64kbps plus overhead. Normally about 90 kbps. But >>>>> there >>>>> are >>>>> lossless compression methods that can cut this in about half. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Marty Dougherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 8:24 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Femtocells >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone know how much BW a call will require? >>>>>> >>>>>> Marty >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On >>>>>> Behalf Of Gino Villarini >>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:57 AM >>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Femtocells >>>>>> >>>>>> Hmm I see better opportunity going to the Cellco directly and offer >>>>>> them >>>>>> the >>>>>> service, so that they do a bundle to the end user... Internet - >>>>>> Femtocell >>>>>> >>>>>> And you make and arrangement with the cellco to deliver the traffic >>>>>> directly >>>>>> to them instead of going to the internet...Saving them some $$ On >>>>>> Internet >>>>>> Bandwidth and also providing a lower latency link to them!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ... maybe this is the next step beyond voip... >>>>>> >>>>>> Gino A. Villarini >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>>>>> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On >>>>>> Behalf Of George Rogato >>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:30 AM >>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Femtocells >>>>>> >>>>>> femtocells >>>>>> >>>>>> This is a great innovation that can help wisps gain market share. >>>>>> >>>>>> With these femtocells, the cell phone works in the house so the >>>>>> consumer >>>>>> >>>>>> doesn't need to have an extra land line. >>>>>> The customer is probably paying 80.00 or so for their dsl - telephone >>>>>> line. >>>>>> No land line needed for us wisps, the customer's 80.00 telco package > is >>>>>> now >>>>>> in "play". 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