This is a major issue and all you can do is plan for it.  The stepdown 
from 48 to 24 or 18 is much less of a worry vs AC/DC - DC/AC 
conversion.  The loss should be minimal, and transformers like this, 
should not fail often.  They are simple devices and are relitivly cheap 
and replaceable. 

I do understand, how easy it would be to use all 48 volt.  We even had a 
number of requests for -48v Power Supplies in our PoweRouters.  12 volt 
is easy, the -48 it s a bit harder.  Lots of telco rooms etc use these.

Dennis Burgess
Mikrotik Certified Consultant / Trainer
www.linktechs.net
WISP/ISP Support Solutions
Home of the PoweRouter 732! 



Travis Johnson wrote:
> Well, it seems a step backward to install a 24v to 48v converter and 
> thus add another point of failure, instead of just replacing the PoE.
>
> All of the new boards only support up to 28V, so unless you are going 
> to continue to find old boards on the used market, at some point you 
> will have to switch to 24V.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Blair Davis wrote:
>> 2 reasons....
>>
>> I've made it a point to make all my tower equipment use the same 
>> power to eliminate the need to keep different spares on hand.  At one 
>> time I had lots of different types of power supplies for different 
>> things. 
>>
>> And it is much harder to kill equipment by accident if they all use 
>> the same power.
>>
>> one last thing...  I've never had problems with voltage drop on a 48V 
>> system... no matter if the cable run is 50ft or 300ft.  I remember 
>> having to pick the power supply vs the cable length before.  This, to 
>> me, is a step backwards.
>>
>> I no longer replace just the board.  I have a standard build of 
>> board, enclosure,static protection and so on...  we just undo the 
>> u-bolts, disconnect the LMR and ethernet and swap.  We never open the 
>> weatherproof enclosure in the air any more.
>>
>>  
>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>> You have to replace the board (which means a tower visit) so why not 
>>> just replace the PoE at the same time?
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Blair Davis wrote:
>>>> My problems with the replacements is the power supply.
>>>>
>>>> I use only 48V POE for my towers... and most of the new gear is not 
>>>> 48V.
>>>>
>>>> So now I'm looking for small 48V to 24V DC-DC converters...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dennis Burgess - Link Techs wrote:
>>>>> 3x is what is out.  The 133 and 133c's are EOL, as are the 532s, 150s 
>>>>> and for most part the entire 100 series boards.  Figure you will have to 
>>>>> start using 400s, 300, and 600s.
>>>>>
>>>>> We do have new cases, nice hinged enclousers and build to spec our 
>>>>> routerboard series. These will fit the 333's without issues.  We are 
>>>>> just getting ready to put up a dual-pol n-stream link with 600s, think 2 
>>>>> foot on one side and 3 foot dish on the other.   
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure we will post the information on our MT list...
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott Reed wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>>> I understand you don't want v3, but I have been moving to RB333s with 
>>>>>> 3.x and have had no issues at all.  They boot faster and support more 
>>>>>> radios.  RB600 uses same mounting holes and daughter cards.  I have one 
>>>>>> 600 ready to install, but have none in production, yet.
>>>>>> I put up a POP with 3 333s on 3RC9 and they are still running on RC12.  
>>>>>> I should get them up to 3.6 or 3.7, but that takes time.  I have a 330 
>>>>>> running 3.3 that is doing great as well.  I have everything from a RB230 
>>>>>> running 2.8.x to 532s running all sorts of 2.9 along with the 330s.
>>>>>> At this point I think you are going to have to bite the bullet and start 
>>>>>> moving to 3.x and the newer cards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark McElvy wrote:
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> Since RB532s are no longer available, what is everyone using to replace
>>>>>>> them? It would be nice not to have to replace the box again (using the
>>>>>>> 7x6x2's from wisp-router) and I am not quite ready to run v3 on my
>>>>>>> network. Any suggestions?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark McElvy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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