Hi Marlon-

I learned the hard way-  Upgrade your firmware immediately!

I bought 5 2000's plus one of the ones with the panel antenna built on the
front because I had kept hearing about how good StarOS was and I wanted to
do a couple of things with them:

1. Try out the OLSR meshing because, as you know, I do a lot of mesh and I
am looking for a lower end solution than Tropos or Cisco for the small
projects.
2. Use them as transparent bridges to feed docks at a marina.

The Lucaya product was attractive to me: reasonably priced, it seemed that a
lot of people used it, they were FCC type accepted systems (a big thing for
me, as I have several licenses at stake personally), and they were
supposedly good at making a dual-radio mesh.

The striking thing about these is the almost near total lack of
documentation. There is a decent piece on StarOS itself, but nothing is
available about the product we bought- hardware wise.
There is not a tech support number, and no way I can see to communicate with
Valemount other than the forum, which Lonnie does seen to monitor often. 

I made the mistake of asking what you did: "How do you make a bridge"?  I
finally got an answer, but prior to that was lectured endlessly about how I
should be using routing instead of bridging and why would I possibly want to
use a bridge- EVER. Remember- all I wanted to do was make them act like a
simple pair of Canopys, Tranzeos, Trangos, or Ligos, all of which have a
simple bridge function and are used in many systems by some of the biggest
players as such.

I made the bridge, but made the mistake of using the same subnet on all
interfaces (normal practice with Ligo, Canopy, Tranzeo, etc.)  Well DON'T DO
THIS ON STAROS!   You end up with an internal bridge loop.
Simple, I thought,  I'll just factory default it and not do that again.
WRONG.  After many more forum messages back and forth and no really straight
answers, I finally learned that the button does nothing but reboot the
radio.
Turns out that the button only works as a defaulter in the latest firmware.
I get to send them all back to be reflashed.  Sure you can do it with the
serial port, IF you have the proper header plug and IF you happen to have a
TTL to Serial converter laying around.  I am going to make an adapter cable
so I can use my Motorola RIB (a box used for programming Motorola 2 way
radios) to talk to these, but in the meantime I had to deinstall all of the
Lucayas and replace them with something else (Ligowave 1a23 bridges) because
I had screaming customers and this marina is a 3 hour round trip for me.

Now don't get the idea that I am totally dissing this product.  I really
like the way it programs and that settings can be applied without a time
consuming reboot.  I only wish the SSH terminal allowed other terminal
options. All of these are behind MT routers that we use as captive hotspot
portals, and we normally make pass-through's in the routers to allow us to
remotely administer.  Doesn't work. I have also been unsuccessful in talking
to the Lucayas through the SSH terminal on the MT router itself. It seems to
be a terminal emulation incompatibility issue.  The only command you can get
to work is F2.  I can't find how to change the emulation on either the MT or
the Lucaya.  Since there's no GUI, I can't use a browser either. I want to
continue using them and playing with the mesh, once the units work again!

The packaging is also intriguing.  The shielding looks excellent!  Also- in
mesh design, we sometimes have to mount on strand, and this package looks
similar to a cable TV amp and may blend nicely in this application, if I can
find a professional way to clamp it on. The supplied bracket is kind of
goofy. I am going to have to be creative to figure out how to mount this on
a power pole or street light arm and not create a hazard that will make us
lose our bond. I did note that after only three weeks outside (fresh water
marina) the cases looked like they were 2 years old and the brand label on
the outside was so sun-faded that it could hardly be read. 


So- to sum up-
1. Upgrade immediately- even if the units were just received new and just
produced.  Otherwise its back to Mama for defaulting.
2. Don't ask dumb questions like "how do I make a transparent bridge" <g>





-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:46 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] star os config help

Where is that?  I'm not seeing it at all.
marlon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] star os config help


> It's on the Interface, under IP addresses.  Change the bridge group number
> from 0 to something else.  All interfaces with the same number (other than
> Zero) will be bridged.
>
> Mark Nash
> UnwiredWest
> 78 Centennial Loop
> Suite E
> Eugene, OR 97401
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> http://www.unwiredwest.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:33 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] star os config help
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>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have a 4000 ap.  I'll only be using one radio card and the ethernet.
>>
>> I can't figure out how to turn it into a bridge ap.  Can anyone tell me
>> where to look?
>>
>> The only thing I've found so far talks about bridging is spanning tree
>> (not
>> helpful) and some kind of rf to rf bridge thingy.  Also not helpful.
>>
>> Can anyone take the time to walk me through the setup on this box? 
>> Kindly
>> send your phone number (off list) and I'll call you around 8 or 8:30 am
>> tomorrow (wed).
>>
>> Thanks!!!
>> marlon
>>
>>
>>
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