Fair enough.  All of our account sign-up forms have a required "Ok to
email" selection where there is no default and you must choose yes or
no.

https://store.ligowave.com/createaccount.aspx?

I guess this could be opt-in or opt-out depending on your view on
life.  :-)

-Hal

-----Original Message-----
From: Butch Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spam from ligowave?
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 00:00:23 -0500 (CDT)

On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Harold Bledsoe wrote:

>No, really, we didn't harvest anyone's email from any mailing 
>lists.  We are very careful to only market to customers of our 
>companies (Deliberant, Ligowave, Wiligear, Wilibox) and have a very 
>simple removal and opt out policy that we honor.

The world has changed somewhat over the past few years.  While I 
appreciate your opt-out policy, I feel the need to ask...is your 
marketing list opt-in in the first place?  I am not "attacking" 
here, but just wanted a bit of clarification.  For me, most of my 
customers are on an opt-out list, but the first email sent to that 
list was one that was not marketing at all, but a note telling them 
that I planned to use the email they provided me for a marketing 
list.  That was how I handled it, but each company operates 
differently.

>I'm sure you all market to your customers in various ways, and we 
>do the same.  We are also a vendor member of WISPA.

Vendor membership offers a lot of nice "relaxations" of the "normal" 
posting policies.  I am not accusing you of such a thing, but wanted 
to clarify that vendor membership does not provide a license to 
harvest... (I know you didn't harvest list addresses...)




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